Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Why no renewables?

Why doesn't Chevron see a future in renewables? In 2014 they sold Chevron Energy Solutions to OpTerra, and they also recently divested the geothermal operations. Other large players are getting into offshore wind, why not Chevron? What comes after gas the "transition fuel"?

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Post ID: @tarj+NUn6fMZ

You're right, dhvw. I always mix up those two dork countries. My comment remains the same (just switch the countries).

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Post ID: @djiu+NUn6fMZ

devx, Volvo is a Swedish company, not Swiss.

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Post ID: @dhvw+NUn6fMZ

Volvo is a liberal Swiss crap of a new automobile. Gas powered or electric, this automaker is going out of business soon.

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Post ID: @devx+NUn6fMZ

Volvo cars are junk. This won't save them. All other car companies keep coming out with more fuel efficient, powerful and lower polluting combustion engines. What does tell you about Volvo?

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Post ID: @dlyb+NUn6fMZ

Just read that Volvo is phasing out all internal combustion engine cars and will go 100% electric. Well, their car sales are already very low and the build quality is junk. They have nothing to lose at this point.

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Post ID: @dxyl+NUn6fMZ

-ctvf, I have a very good job which I love because my skills are valuable and marketable. Today I happen to be working on an Oil & Gas related project. Tomorrow it may be coal, minerals, mining, shipping, pipeline, refinery, chemical plant, food processing etc. I am not Chevron direct. I have a lot of respect for those in the O&G industry who keep this country fueled and running, provide the hydrocarbon based components (plastics, in everything we use) and charge the batteries of the pie in the sky vehicles of the future. Kudos to the next great industry and sources of energy which will power the vehicles and devices of the future. I have plenty of respect for them. They are not all quite here yet. I suggest you behave like a man(or respectable woman in that case), and not like a pathetic spiteful liberal, and either do your job for Chevron, or shut up and get a job with an up-and-coming renewable energy venture. Insulting people who work for the company who feeds you or did for years , or anyone else, will get you nowhere. Just a little advice.

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Post ID: @cqtz+NUn6fMZ

yes, renewable energy is just a fantasy. Coal is where it's at. And oil and gas. You can tell how well they are doing by how many people they are hiring. Isn't it just awesome the way the industry is thriving since President Trump took over? He has unleashed fossil fuel dominance on a scale that the world could not have imagined. The only question is which job offer to accept? It's a golden age, Trumpletons. You guys are brilliant.

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Post ID: @ctvf+NUn6fMZ

@NUn6fMZ-bwsc, Not just Teslas, but all Automobiles, and Electronics rely on hydrocarbons to exist, in many ways, the least of which is a fuel source to charge their batteries OR to put in their gas tank. Just adding to your point.

"Keep producing the good stuff and fighting the good fight, boys and girls. " Good point. The FUTURE of technology is depending on them. Not on the deniers who are always looking for "Basic Income" instead of contributing to society. You know the type.

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Post ID: @bxfy+NUn6fMZ

The lack of reading comprehension by posters such as -bsoq is staggering. No wonder these are the folks on the lay-offs site. Chevron chose wisely by either laying you guys off or putting the fear of layoffs in you to drive you to this site.

Que - the lies from posters with all the OTHER reasons that they made up to explain why they are here. Don't bother. We know why you are here.

Que - all of the dumb responses about "how do you know ?"

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Post ID: @bkwd+NUn6fMZ

I don't know why do many posters here have such polarized views on renewables.

The future will require both hydrocarbons and renewables, with latter becoming proportionately more important in richer and more advanced economies.

About 23% of Q1 2017 electricity generation in Texas came from wind.

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Post ID: @bkzn+NUn6fMZ

Don't get your panties in a twist over the "Renewables" fan club. They only love to talk the talk, but don't walk the talk. Most of them actually love their large SUVs and pickup trucks and burn more kilowatt hours of electricity cooling their homes than most of us who are honest about what's the most efficient in energy utilization today.

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Post ID: @bsdr+NUn6fMZ

The comment by @bwsc is classic. Tesla relies on hydrocarbons to charge its batteries. The growth in power generation is in renewables, especially wind and solar. Coal is dead and natural gas is losing market share to renewables. The 'good stuff' is low-carbon, renewable distributed generation.

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Post ID: @bsoq+NUn6fMZ

Teslas rely on hydrocarbons to exist, in many ways, the least of which is a fuel source to charge their batteries. Just saying.

Keep producing the good stuff and fighting the good fight, boys and girls. The advancement and progress of technology is depending on you.

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Post ID: @bwsc+NUn6fMZ

aedj - Your opinion is only that, just like everyone has a hole in their backside.

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Post ID: @boqe+NUn6fMZ

The comments on this site are strong confirmation that Chevron is going down. What a bunch of idiots.

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Post ID: @aedj+NUn6fMZ

@afiv, We don't care if Chevron becomes US Coal. That's got to be like 2 careers into the future. Not my problem or yours either.

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Post ID: @azoc+NUn6fMZ

Germany (with all of its clouds) now gets 35 % of its electric needs from renewables

Tesla has penetrated the US auto market far faster than any of the "expert" auto analysts predicted.

yes, chevron's core business remains hydrocarbons. However, without a plan for the future that includes renewables , Chevron risks ending up like US Coal.

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Post ID: @afiv+NUn6fMZ

Hey people! For Christ sake, if WE are Chevron people on this layoff site (actively employed, laid off or retired) do we not have some in common??!!! Chevron is an oil and gas centric business. We you work (worked) here, you should be pro-O&G first and "renewables" second. For crying out loud, I am retired from Chevron. I worked there for 29 years and it provided well for me and my family. For that I'm grateful, aside from the other opinions I had of it's management and internal politics. I retired with the pension annuity, so it's not my favor that Chevron go out of business (and I don't think it will). If you're no longer with Chevron and took the lump sum, that still is not a reason to wish your previous employer and benefactor ill will. The thing is you worked for an oil and gas business. Your politics may favor "renewables" (not that there's anything bad about it), but don't take it out on your current or previous employer. Chevron is an oil and gas company. It has sustained you and yours for all these years. Don't chastise Chevron for what it does. If you do, you're being hypocritical and disingenuous.

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Post ID: @azgp+NUn6fMZ

Chevron will go out of business because they cannot evolve. Do the evolution or go bankrupt.

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Post ID: @aqjr+NUn6fMZ

Why no renewables? The answer is because they are expensive on a cost-per-btu of energy basis. Oil and gas will remain the dominant fuel source for a very long time. All oil companies are in business to make a profit. They are not heavily subsidized, government backed experiments for a few investors. Remember Solyndra anyone? Chevron, and others, will not invest much, if at all, in renewables unless they are ordered to by Federal government legislation and/or regulation.

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Post ID: @abiq+NUn6fMZ

@NUn6fMZ-aduf, I am a person with multiple degrees in STEM fields and decades of experience in various science and technological positions. I did not recite to you any political dogma, just my own opinion, and analysis as you did yours. You were the only one who brought up politics at all. Please keep thinking but ignore the politics, as I have. You are on the right track. Thanks for reading.

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Post ID: @aksh+NUn6fMZ

I love the post below where a typical Trumpanzee claims Obama is an intellectually deficient loser. He also managed to fit in almost every Trumpanzee buzzword in the same post but somehow forgot to include big hitters like cuck and Killary.

Try better next time, loser.

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Post ID: @auoi+NUn6fMZ

@NUn6fMZ-9egw

You cited geologic time and made references to scientific data. You seem to be a person that believes in science but some how now you don't believe in the global warming science and its current effects. I'm curious how you come to this conclusion. Is it just political dogma? As you know geologic time is many thousands and millions of years and not the hundreds of years human have been using fossil fuel and the effects that this can have right now.

Fossil fuel was buried underground and since the industrial age we dug this up and burn it and put the exhaust into the air and you think this will not have an effect? For me just doing some simple thinking, you put stuff that was in the ground and put that into the air (by human) that it will have an effect, like a greenhouse.

To just say that this is natural is a cop out. Nature will go through it cycles of cold and hot but on a long long long time scale (geologic time), not the hundreds of years we are now facing that could affect us in the very near future like 5 to 50 years from now. You may be gone but your offsprings may be around to suffer and deal with the problems.

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Post ID: @aduf+NUn6fMZ

#SolidGold, ajyk. Love your view and attitude on Climate Change. There's nothing we can do about it. Mother Earth might be getting hotter, but not man-made. If humankind is not made to survive the natural geological change that's coming, they better prepare to live underground for a several decades until the planet begins its cooling cycle. But just like you said, most of us will be dead before the sh*t hits the fan.

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Post ID: @ahvn+NUn6fMZ

Air temps have been rising for 30 years, and now it is clear the oceans are following. Arctic projected to be ice free every summer within a decade, which is already accelerating exploration. I am getting old, and will be gone before the sh-- hits the fan. Good luck to you and yours. My fellow baby boomers have had a good ride... s-x drugs and rock and roll when young...just say no then the kids were growing... I got mine you get yours in mid life, and feel free to cut your health coverage but do not even think of cutting soc security! By the way, here's the bill for our party... and did I mention the planet was cratering ... my bad and thanks for all the fish!

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Post ID: @ajyk+NUn6fMZ

Yes, by all means, let's do that. It is God's/Trump's/Watson's plan. The Holy Trinity.

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Post ID: @9nja+NUn6fMZ

No problem, burn it up and we will pump more. Don't worry about that climate change nonsense. Perfectly natural for one species to kill itself off so others that can adapt faster to climate change can thrive. This happens again and again throughout geologic history. You might think that the first species smart enough to understand that it was killing itself off could avoid the fate of all those that came before, but that is clearly not Gods plan.

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Post ID: @9spj+NUn6fMZ

As Chevron continues to shrink under the leadership of people who know nothing about science, engineering or technology, it's beautiful to see the explanations here of how renewable energy is not viable. As the world transitions away from coal, oil and gas, don't hurt your brains thinking about the reasons why. Just keep listening to your leader, Donald Trump. He has all the answers you'll ever need.

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Post ID: @9nrv+NUn6fMZ

Are most of the butt-hurt losers men or women? Just asking.

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Post ID: @9kfi+NUn6fMZ

@9nhm, I know very little about geothermal energy. I suspect neither do you. Yet it is an interesting topic and would like to hear a couple of brief examples/explanations from you. If you do not respond, it is clear that you are just a disgruntled butthurt laid-off loser troll who knows nothing either.

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Post ID: @9btp+NUn6fMZ

So far, most of the folks commenting on this thread don't know squat about geothermal energy and renewable energy.

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Post ID: @9nhm+NUn6fMZ

At one point in geologic time there was a sea cutting through the middle of the North American Continent. Also sea levels were much higher and less of the continent was exposed.(Isn't that one of the threats purported by the CC zealots?) Cataclysmic level events occurred producing great heat which melted the Earth's crust on a large scale wiping out 50% of the living organisms. Temperatures were dramatically higher than they have ever been in the blip of time since mankind was present. During other periods temperatures were significantly cooler and the Earth was covered in ice. .

Yes, of course there is climate change. It is a very real thing. Geologic data illustrates that. Man-made? Wow. I guess it's definitely possible. I would tend to think that natural geologic evolutionary forces, causes and effects and climate change associated with them would be much greater and affected by man about as much as a gnat on a dogs butt. If the Earth ever experiences even one of the Crust and inhabitant-altering major geologic events like it has in the past, during man's presence here, a little bit (or a lot) of Global warming, sea level rise, or cooling, for that matter, will be the least of mankind's worries!

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Post ID: @9egw+NUn6fMZ

Every single man-made global warming. aka climate change, prediction that has ever been made has not happened. Every one. 100% batting average of ZERO. Yet, to the true believers, every failed prediction only offers more evidence that man-made global warming is actually happening. These people are more deluded than a certain WWII European leader hiding in his bunker, expecting total victory at any moment. Or Al Gore, for that matter.

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Post ID: @9tte+NUn6fMZ

It's widely known that "climate change" (formerly, "global warming", until the narrative was debunked) is nothing more than a New World Order distribution of wealth ploy to hurt no other country but the United States (The Great Satan, as some like to refer to the USA). The Kioto and Paris Accords and other such initiatives in the UN are nothing but attempts to hamstring the United States into deals that weaken our economy. Some of our US politicians are willing accomplices and conspirators in this biggest of all hoaxes.

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Post ID: @9tgf+NUn6fMZ

@8etb - News flash! Low carbon and climate change are hoaxes.

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Post ID: @8zek+NUn6fMZ

It's great to see so many renewable energy experts opining about why renewables don't work. It's one more solid piece of evidence that Chevron will fail bigly time, as the world moves forward to a low-carbon energy system and the dinosaurs at Chevron quote articles from National Review as to why renewables won't work.

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Post ID: @8etb+NUn6fMZ

I wanted to recharge my "renewable energy" solar watch the other day, but with 3 days of rainstorms and 2 more of cloudy days, I couldn't get it charged. Now I'm dead in the water without being able to tell the time. So much for solar power. It svcks big league.

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Post ID: @7bze+NUn6fMZ

A downside of solar energy:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449026/solar-panel-waste-environmental-threat-clean-energy?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=kelly&utm_content=clean-energy

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Post ID: @7xyy+NUn6fMZ

Hey @6web, I'm one human who has an average lifespan of 85 years. I live my life as best as possible and then die. These "renewable" ideas take a generation and a half to pan out sometimes. I'll be long gone by the time a few of these stupid ideas take root to save the world. Life's too short to be wasting time with things that you won't enjoy.

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