Every department here at Gulfstream got the vague “a lay-off comes mid October” memo...
So far, we do not know more, primarily how many people will be affected by the layoff...
Just people essential to the customers (so building planes, selling them and support). Direct and indirect.
@110Pv4mn-yuis is right, the same thing is rumored to happen in Dallas as well. Move operations to c-appy St. Louis or Cahokia. Hoping that's not the case.
Is it lay offs or termination. Let's get the facts right. Dont suger coat it.
I have been at GAC for over 10 years. The thing that I noticed 9-1/2 years ago? Upper management cannot plan beyond next Tuesday. Their cuts always seem random in nature AND on the wrong levels of the organisation.
Long Beach service isn’t moving to Van Nuys and Scottsdale. Completions is shutting down and St Louis is going to complete the aircraft Long Beach should have.
I heard that they are laying off the entire long beach staff
laa dee daa everything
We had another meeting they just told us they are done with the rif
No matter the outcome I truly hope for all of you to find peace in whatever the results may be. Either way it lands for me I'm grateful for the time and lessons and that the anxiety and sadness I've experienced since 2010 here are over.
If you still have a job you may want to consider sticking around. Gulfstream is going through a transformation - things may go well, things may go south too. Meanwhile, if you have particular skills and the company is willing to compensate you justly for those skills - and so long as you are afforded opportunities to enhance your skill set or find satisfaction in some other esoteric fashion at the company... why not stay?
Employment is a roll of the dice no matter who you work for.
Gulfstream always lay-off before the holidays. I never put all my eggs in a basket. I have worked for this company back in 2005-2006 and was let go. That organization is horrible for long term. I join the military and I have to say is the best decision I have made for my family.
They walked out a lot of office people out today at the sav service center . My boss told us they were safe.
It was between 400-500 today. Don’t recall the exact number.
Anyone knows what was today’s total? I’m hearing more than 1000 impacted.
Appleton letting aircraft managers, and several technicians go.
They let the director of Events and the Director of Product support go yesterday
GD may be putting Gulfstream on the market.. Cutting high paid directors lowing employee cost with rif. Make Gulfstream look better in the market place.. Check mad money where this was a talking point
Another tip: make plans, update resumes, start looking. It is sad for all of us but the only constant in life is change. Stay ahead of the game and have other opportunities lined up.
Whoever posted this is true:
"Total lay off at gulfstream across the board will be 4500"
It's a minimum 23% reduction from reliable HR source. It will be in waves but that number is accurate at a minimum. I would make alternative plans, update your resumes.
My biggest problem is senior leadership acting as if they are not part of the problem. Quit blaming all of our issues on the eastern hemisphere. They are not the reason all of our programs are WAY over budget it’s your fault for the lack of oversight. Sure subordinates below the Senior team will be let go over this coming week, but I can guarantee you there will not be one single change to our sun city geriatric senior leadership team. They should have been the first to fall on the sword, but we all know their is no honor among THIEVES!
Going to get lots worse. Lots of people jumping ship for other jobs and little info provided to employees. They have been totally mum which doesn't help.
No time has been allotted to do transitions, some unique positions are being eliminated, the grunt workers who read and write specifications, contract reviewers, design reviewers, scopes of work....
Customers should be very afraid of what Gulfstream is promising to deliver, the Boeing fiascos are a walk in the park in comparison, good luck to all.
Where did the 10% number come from? It's 23%. There is no way a company halts all production to a hurricane that "wasn't" and still continues above the black line. 23% is the number everyone else is getting.
Annndddd... People are getting nasty as they do when layoffs begin. The morale has dropped, people running around with daggers.
The Grim Reaper will be making the cuts this Tuesday. Beware the ides of October eh?
Let's face it (and some of us don't want to) the people who were let go or will be let go are the dead wood of the company, sorry for telling it like it is.
this post predicted this a month ago
that's nice
There is a Furlough after the RIF
Sales are bad engine nacelles still s—
Lota of unnecessary business trips by engineering managers. Getting dem flying miles.
Production have been lied to that they will be busy and that 300 new mechanics are to be hired. Well bs,bs,bs, BS
Furlough is coming
After joining Gulfstream from the competitor and Having been working here for two decades I have seen engineering and the company mature a great deal but there is plenty of personnel redundancy and process waste from years of expansion. Three Complete and siloed engineering organizations. Time for a Merge Purge? Let’s just hope the coming cuts don’t result in culture and atmosphere regression to the tyrannical days of old. We need to keep people that are productive uplifting team players including great admins!
My comment on the layoffs, I've been with this company over 30 years, with the apparent trimming of the fat, that looks to focused on support and management, it's crazy that an announcement was made that a senior VP over sales joined Gulfstream!
Unfortunately for us, because I am among them, but I was told by a friend over at HR that Blue Badges will be next, possibly as soon as December.
Brian Durrence was a true leader. It’s gonna be huge mess. C Miller is clueless. Unless you wanna join his book club.
All engineer's should spend 5 or more years on the floor before working as one, or have 10 years in the aviation field. This doesn't happen anywhere that I know of.
Engineering and program very very top heavy. Far too many high paid management and technical people in cushy irrelevant positions. I agree that a correction is long overdue.
Engineering has grown huge during past 12 years adding layers of fat and process waste as organizations all built their little empires of loyal cronies. Managers and directors of nothing. Made up new cushy roles like “portfolio manager” and so on. Redundancy and complete siloed organizations. Program management even fatter. Long overdue correction.
He’s going to work on supersonic
This Company has seen constant erosions from poor program management and constand engineering changes that Gulfstream believes should be free. This Engineering group thinks they have a playground of unlimited funds with poor accountability. They have cost the margins on these aircrafts coming to market. They need to shed some of this dead weight and focus on the direction of the leadership and of course they need to show good faith in attempting to protect shareholder’s investments. But they could never recover what is already lost.
We all must have at least 6 month in our lay-off funds! This will prevent from taking the first job available following a lay-off.
Aerospace careers: I expected times like this - but I never thought they'd be so bad, so long, and so frequent.
Something that most people don't understand is that Gulfstream, like every other for profit company, in not in business to provide jobs. They are in business t make money. The aerospace business is cyclic. Always will be. Who ever typed this message must be in management. He or she thinks everybody is dumb or slow. The hiring processes and promotions at Gulfstream have been abused. Top heavy.