18 year employee here, and now I have convinced myself that maybe taking the next exit could possibly be the right move.
Anyway, I’m curious on other’s thoughts on DEI at Chevron. A company who claims to be color blind really can’t be while also supporting this radical concept that in many respects is about exclusion of white males.
Haters and trolls….go!
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This reorg is to fix the problems caused by DEI. Apparently 15-20% are diversity hires.
Very well said
It seems like most of the DEI-favoring comments here are being made by the same one guilt-ridden unaware white leftist troll who rants and rants. I post this as a minority who understands the problems and detriments of DEI initiatives. And I know no other minorities who back these programs, they are all basically a white-person redemption thing. Let's just hire based on merit and call it a day, please? We all know there are biases of all sorts in hiring. Superficially adding more bias on top of bias is not accomplishing anything but resentment from all involved.
“ I don't know a single woman that was allowed to apply for more roles than everyone else.”
No one said they were allowed to apply for more than 4 postings. However, if they didnt get selected for one of their positions then they were automatically considered for multiple other positions in order to increase the number of women hired. Again, its clear you were not involved in the selection process.
I don't know a single woman that was allowed to apply for more roles than everyone else. My BU consists of mostly white males so it make sense to me that the higher percentage of race/gender throughout the company had a higher percentage of people let go. I don't know how that's considered discrimination at all.
“ Maybe you need to look at the numbers from the 2020 gutting of the company. What percentage of those pushed out the door were Caucasian?
So DEI is not discrimination...if you believe that you must either be HR or blind.”
Sounds like you have no clue how the selection process worked. If you were a preferred race or gender you were considered for an unlimited number of job slates. If you were a white male then it was four and no more. That is raced/gender based hiring. Keep your gaslighting up. Its almost funny to listen to if it werent so sad.
Maybe you need to look at the numbers from the 2020 gutting of the company. What percentage of those pushed out the door were Caucasian?
So DEI is not discrimination...if you believe that you must either be HR or blind.
“ no. That's not what DEI does. DEI makes sure people recognize what unconscious bias looks like so that people that are otherwise marginalized have a chance to be included in the workplace. ”
Thats the nice lipstick they try to place on the DEI pig. In reality, its about hiring based on race to increase visible diversity. Thats why Chevron touted their visible diversity stats after FT. Its also why DEI is never mentioned anymore in Chevron as the SCOTUS declared these type of race based preferences to be illegal. Keep trying to gaslight folks but you are only fooling yourself at this point.
@xa no. That's not what DEI does. DEI makes sure people recognize what unconscious bias looks like so that people that are otherwise marginalized have a chance to be included in the workplace. There are no quotas for hiring certain races or genders. No one is taking the white man's jobs.
“ God I’m so tired of mediocre men being butthurt because they can’t fathom a person other than them being qualified and are scared of others getting the opportunity to push through the boys club and be seen.”
Um thats exactly what DEI and affirmative action does. Hire mediocre people because they have the right identity.
God I’m so tired of mediocre men being butthurt because they can’t fathom a person other than them being qualified and are scared of others getting the opportunity to push through the boys club and be seen.
“ @qq someone doesn't understand the difference between affirmation actions and DEI and which one is actually illegal.”
It doesn’t matter what you call it. Race based hiring is illegal. Chevron employed race based hiring during FT which is now illegal. Notice the lack of discussion about DEI this time around. Thats not on accident.
@qq someone doesn't understand the difference between affirmation actions and DEI and which one is actually illegal.
@qm+1,
What a vacuous response. You must be living in a bunker if you missed the recent Students for Fair Admissions case. There are several other cases even going back to the Hopkins case in the 90s. Maybe if you stopped watching CNN you may learn something.
@qe try Google searching a little harder and lay off the fox News.
"I think everyone here needs to understand that everyone complaining of DEI are probably suffering from the dunning-kruger effect. Aka they think they're better than they actually are. "
You can keep arguing this nonsense but there are plenty of lawsuits that have shown blacks have been given preference in hiring over whites and asians on the basis of race. You may not like it but race based hiring is now illegal. Chevron needs to stop implementing racist hiring practices or they will expose the company to legal risks.
I think everyone here needs to understand that everyone complaining of DEI are probably suffering from the dunning-kruger effect. Aka they think they're better than they actually are. The reality is that most people are just mediocre at their jobs. That's just a fact of reality. Of course there's going to be some people better and some people worse, but it's very much like IQs. It's the same everywhere from McDonald's to the top tier positions at top notch companies. I doubt anyone here has any real ability to determine who is competent or who isn't. So people should stop complaining about DEI.
HR has metrics they run after ROM events but before layoffs to make sure no minority group is disproportionately impacted - to limit risk of lawsuits.
@fa+1jjzgrvx1, If the company doesn't want any seat warmers who didn't earn their position why are you still here?
Please take the package because people who actually perform don't worry about this nebulous concept of DEI. The company doesn't need any more seat warmers. Bye.
@dr+1 DEI is a factor but you’re correct ….not the only one. When you make hires based on anything other than performance (just like nepotism), it’s wrong. Interestingly, discrimination based on s-x etc. is against the law but that seems to go unnoticed.
It cracks me up when people start saying DEI disadvantages white men. Just look around you…there is no shortage of unqualified, poor performing white men at this company (MW as the prime example). DEI is not the villain here. Blatant nepotism, favoritism, and bias are.
It’s not just DEI at your level, just look at the CEO job - oh, wait every single one since the founding of the Company has been a…
If you in IT, DEI won’t matter. New sheriff in town taking it back to the good ole days yall
I have been gone since 2020. I can say that in that ROM, DEI was absolutely a predominant factor in selections. From what I've seen and heard from many friends still there, it's still actively being practiced. Actual job performance and skills DO NOT MATTER.
Good luck.