Was informed we need to be telling management what 3 days we are going to be in office each week. If we need to change a day we need to be letting management know. This feels beyond the rto requirements. If we are hitting our 11 days a month why does it matter what days we are in office. The micro management is at a all time high. Is this happening across the board or am I just lucky?
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@sv Do you try to track several WFH people on the DL? Why should you care what other people are doing? Im going to be logging on to start my day in four hours and feeling the gentle sea breeze from my balcony in Cabo… might even have a drink during my lunch break.
@r9: You would not believe how many remote folks work from locations other than home often for weeks at a time. Florida, Hawaii, Arizona, Mexico, lake cabins in MN/WI, etc. Meanwhile those of us who don’t have a single team member in our hub are being heavily tracked and treated like a redheaded stepchild (with freckles).
Those who were grandfathered into remote and have moved to a near hub station how is that being tracked? Are we checking everyone's IP addresses to ensure that those grandfathered are where they say they should be?
I truly don’t care how they track. I know I adhere to 3+/11 day guidance I was given. I know I make sure I’m in office at least 6-8 hours and then some after I get home. But I’ve lost trust in the ulterior motives of leadership. So if this ever shows up on performance as a means to push someone out they better be able to show their cards and prove it to me, to HR and in court. It’s the use of the info I don’t trust.
@ab No mistake. They are looking at time in the office vs “available time in office” something along those lines. So if you enter sick time or vacation, that reduces your available time in the office. Badge swipes are less important than how you’re connected to the bank’s systems - VPN or the Bank’s network. It’s designed to catch folks who are swiping in and leaving pretty quick or otherwise gaming the RTO metric. That’s my understanding.
@d8 it’s for cost efficiency in the future. Catching those who are non-compliant, giving them needs improvement, building the list of next layoffs or terms.
It strikes me as odd, to say the very least, that the bank would stress budget constraints as a reason to not pay employees but would spend resources on tracking their hours in the office when it hasn't shown to be a useful indicator of anything. If it was, the managing committee would be falling over themselves to tell us about it every month.
If you've been bootlicking for over two years now, you should have no problems licking a few additional boots from now on.
If your doing what they been asking / telling us to do for over two years now you have nothing to worry about.
@a6 a5 here I have not heard anything formal at all but I do know a reputable infosec guy who vets software like this and he was involved in the procurement process and said it's definitely coming 2026. He told me this November 2025. He's not the type to bs
@af sigh fu--ing great. One more thing for me to have to worry about.
You must be the lucky one. My team had to tell our manager what our normal in office days are. But if we switch days in a particular week, we don't need to notify management at all.
Haven’t heard anything about this and my leader is pretty transparent as they hear updates.
As such, my leader shared late last year that the IP tracking was coming. So for all the people questioning, yes it’s real. Our discussion on this came because it’s been ok for people to occasionally work from different locations. My leader advised against this for a situation coming up for me. That’s when they mentioned the IP stuff.
@aa I don't understand what that means. Did you type PTO instead of RTO?
@a6 very likely. They are going to marry IP / network data to your PTO in workday.
My group within RM&C is already understaffed and everyone is feeling squeezed. Doubt this holds any water.
@a5 assuming you're a people leader. Any merit to the 6 hour in office rumors flying around right now?
That sounds like an id--t leader in your area mandating this. I've heard nothing like this in my area and I am a manager. I would know ahead of time for my leaders if something like this was coming.
There are some truly incompetent leaders out there who don't know how to figure out the game and how to play it right.
Some leaders are so d-mb that they demand 11 days even if you take half the month off for pto. They're too lazy to read the documentation from HR that literally says PTO can't be used against you in their judgment of your performance for rto.
The 3 days RTO will lead this bank into a disaster.