I get it. RTO stinks. Management stinks. The coffee stinks. But, you all realize that this is not Russia—you can leave at any time. If you feel that strong, leave. That will speak louder than some website post or quitting a slack channel or wearing black. No need to be a hero and stay. Many people would gladly have your job.
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Shut up Brian.
Ok Boomer
you aren’t powerless
you’re free to get a job anywhere and pursue your own interests
the problem is you’re stomping your feet when you have no leverage
welcome to the real world you sniveling goober. your parents and their parents had it much worse
you’re part of a generation so buried in entitlement that you’re completely unequipped to deal with any real life challenged
I quit from there several years ago, of course I was lucky to have another good opportunity at the time but I could tell everything was going down hill at the HO. Now I lurk here to get news about my what might happen to some of my remaining friends there .... and make anonymous jokes which I know you all secretly appreciate.
Looks like Wayne, Tamala and Amala are ordering their Kool-Aid Klown Posse to do some sabotage work on here. Nice try!
That includes you too @sshole
@1dgm+1mKQOjeX.... Member contact is less likely to be attempting to be OE, since the nature of the job doesn't make that easily doable... I used to be member contact but now I'm staff level at another firm. You sound like a hater towards member contact. Some of those jobs are the most challenging and difficult having to deal with entitled folks like you who look down on others without any appreciation for the work they do. Being tethered to a headset all day and having your entire day micromanaged is absolutely no fun. Do better
Wow. I’m surrounded by a lot of hate filled, classless keyboard warriors. Grow up and learn how to debate without being a classless, ill-informed, one sided di-knozzle, regardless of your generation.
I still don’t understand why non member contact is required to RTO but member contact can remain remote. Managers need to keep tabs on their teams at home. How many members complain about hearing dogs and kids in background? How many remote member contact say they have having system issues and can’t log in?? Where are the y-cord calls where managers can make the phone rep uncomfortable listening? This is not professional. But you want people who just zoom to come in? Blows my mind who thought of that? Secondly how can member contact get more raises? They just talk to member they aren’t doing real work.
“ Oh ... WFH is a benefit now? Was it a thing before the pandemic? Seems your rage is misplaced. What started as a temporary stop-gap thing during the pandemic shutdowns is now an expected benefit and an entitlement? Grow up!”
You are being obtuse. Many of us were hired to be remote. My role was hired to be permanently remote. I was headhunted from a company where my role was remote. The company boasted the second largest location being “wfh”. Now, after contributing to the success of this company, we’re told we no longer matter.
OP is right, this isn't Russia. OP would prefer this to be North Korea where employees are given their daily bowl of dirt to eat. Then employees say in unison "Thank you great leader! May we have another?".
If you don’t have a problem with what is going on then why would you even be on this site?
Iduknow? Schadenfreude?
If you don’t have a problem with what is going on then why would you even be on this site?
Hey, you missed complaining about Gen-X...most boomers are probably already retired. But seriously, I don't think it's a generational thing. There are people who will always find something to complain about, always need a scapegoat for their lack of success, and always bi--h about how everyone's out to sc--w them over. It is tiresome. Now the answer from these folks is how can we sc--w over the company that pays our salary/benefits/bonuses? Hence the whining about quiet quitting, promises to do the bare minimum, watch Netflix, badmouth the company, etc. Like the OP said, you could leave. But my guess is many of you will never find a company that pays you this well...and yes, by pay I include salary/benefits, vacation/other days/bonuses/etc.
Working Fraud (USAA) remotely here from Delaware! Is my job as good as gone?!?!
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This is not entirely correct, some people went through approvals to become full time remote prior to COVID forcing everyone to become hybrid. Now all of a sudden they have to try and get an exception approved again even if they moved away. Imagine moving for personal reasons since you were under the impression this was permanent and now you are stuck with having to drive in and live 60 miles away when you used to live 10-15 miles away.
@jcy+1mKQOjeX it's all AI generated, you know that, right?
After reading these comments, TIL Clyde is capable of using a computer...
Good to know
@snr+1mKQOjeX So blaming the previous generation for everything wrong with yours ... so original! Yaknow that's been going on for generations, right?
Yeah yeah ... go cry that you're so special and so much worse off than anyone else.
Or are you going to collect your retirement and ride off into the sunset like the rest of your Boomer colleagues?
Wait ... I can retire now? Check please!
@zxf+1mKQOjeX Last I checked, Boomers raised millennials, so who's really to blame for "participation trophies"?
Little 5-year-old Timmy didn't buy his own participation trophy for his little league T-ball tournament, I'm sure of that.
Boomers were handed the greatest economy in the history of the world and failed to do the one thing that's expected of them in the social contract: leave a better world for their kids.
You can call millennials the participation trophy generation if you want, but Boomers are the "Fu-k you, I got mine" generation.
Retirement Plus elimination.
Shift Premium reduction.
PTO bank reduction.
Bonus restructured to stay low.
Openly calling to be in the "50th percentile for pay and benefits."
You can suckle on Wayne's te-t if you want, but the rest of us actually appreciate receiving what we signed up for here years ago. It's people like you who want to accept the race to the bottom. When will you say that enough is enough? Are you going to speak up if Wayne reduces salaries to $7.25 per hour or will you be on here thanking him and telling us to be grateful? Or are you going to collect your retirement and ride off into the sunset like the rest of your Boomer colleagues?
"If you don't like it, leave!" says every Boomer ever.
Yeah ... let's break sh-t till we get our way, says every participation-trophy-bearing, entitled millennial ever! Yawn!
@vsn+1mKQOjeX Oh ... WFH is a benefit now? Was it a thing before the pandemic? Seems your rage is misplaced. What started as a temporary stop-gap thing during the pandemic shutdowns is now an expected benefit and an entitlement? Grow up!
@vsn+1mKQOjeX I'm guessing the OP's point isn't that one shouldn't complain or shouldn't try to change things ... in appropriate channels and will the right people.
Complaining on thelayoff, however, is tiresome and unproductive.
if Wayne decides we all have to wear assless chaps to work
Is that a thing? Where do I sign up?
"If you don't like it, leave!" says every Boomer ever.
People are capable of appreciating some things and disagreeing with others. People can love the mission of the company and hate our current CEO. People can love the US and hate our President. It's not an all or nothing thing.
Not sure why people have such a quitter's mindset when it comes to these kinds of issues. OP's point is basically "If you aren't willing to blindly accept everything our glorious leaders decide for us, there's the door!"
"MaNy pEoPle wOuLd LoVe tO hAvE yOUr JoB!" What's your point in saying that? Does that mean if Wayne decides we all have to wear assless chaps to work, we should go along with it because some bozo outside of the company wants our job?
It's this incessant "Accept every poor decision that leadership makes" mentality that has allowed wages to stagnate for decades, benefits to be cut, morale to be decimated, and so much more. There will always be "someone who wants our job." That does not matter in the slightest. If they were qualified for my job they would have interviewed for it and gotten it, but they didn't.
"Be thankful you have a job."
"Other people want your job."
"If you don't like it, leave."
All of those are tired tropes used by Boomers to guilt people into accepting less, take on more responsibility for less pay, watch as their benefits gets slashed, and convince them that they are powerless.
In Amerika, you leave company. In Soviet Russia, company leave you.
Oh wait ...
Ok Wayne