If you want to spend more of your time chilling at home and spending time with your cats, why did you apply to TIAA in the first place?
The 3 days rule has in place for years..they only started to enforce it for real recently.
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@11b Huh?
Yes, I am a bootlicking TIAA fan - so what.
Is it so bad to love a company so much I use all my downtime to praise this company and it's stance for being in an office?
@rt who is wasting money here?
I'm going to estimate that the cast majority of people on this board make less than $150k even with bonus and insurance that's $200K max.
Where are the leaders - most WFH more than we do. Or waste money via travel. Or get paid exorbitant amounts of money for doing basically nothing.
T makes more than a lot of CEOs and has a security entourage everywhere she goes like she's POTUS... But she does not know the business and doesn't seem to want to be an advocate of her associates. All talk and no action.
T doesn't practice what she preaches.
Good bootlicker like you and your brown nose can't see past he real waste at TIAA. Get your rose colored glasses cleaned up and see who has their paper right. It's definitely not those on this forum and I can bet half the company is not where they need to be financially current state or their retirement futures.
@qx then you should stop taking paycheck from here and go be with those people in your life instead . You are wasting your time here and wasting company’s money . Or else dedicate your time like you should be to the people feeding your family
@dc literally every other person in my life is more important to me than who is paying me. That's a twisted view you've got there.
@jv I’ve gotten married, had two children, and bought and sold and then bought another house in the last 6 years. 6 years is prob a drop in the bucket at this person’s advanced age, but a lot of life happened for most people in the last 6 years. It’s very telling that the person thought they ate with “did they buy their real estate after COVID?” Yes, around 30 million Americans did.
@jq yes, a lot of us bought during/right after Covid. Covid-19 (the 19 in Covid-19 means 2019) outbreak originated more than 6 years ago. That’s actually a long time, boomer.
A lot of angry responses from people who claim to work long hours at home and having to sacrifice many hours whole commuting to the office
So did they buy their real estate after COVID? Before COVID working from the office at least 4 days a week was the norm. Very few large companies allowed completely remote work.
Honestly- I just don’t like being treated like a freaking child.
I’m a professional with advanced degrees and 20 years of experience.
Just leave me alone, treat me like an adult. I’ll be in the office when I need to be and if I need to be home I’ll be there.
The whole taking attendance and monitoring thing is juvenile and does not create a healthy environment.
TIAA has gone toxic I fear
WFH=Lazy??? Another one talking out their a$$. Some of us were hired to be remote. Some of us work 10-12 hours a day. Sone of us do the jobs if three people. Spending all that time in a car on top of the 10-12 hours a day. Should I do the math for you nah I will be lazy. They should have called back the roles that should be in an office not a general all back to the office order. Let’s see how your mind than twist that one.
@dc I hope this was sarcasm. If it wasn’t that describes a very sad existence. Who hurt you?
@dc bless your heart.
Started here 20 years ago before WFH was a thing other than once in a while, also when gas prices were almost $5/gal in Charlotte, or when sick to not spread germs to my peers.
So I and many others still here, didn't apply to WFH at TIAA, but the COVID pandemic proved most can do this from home. It is pointless to get on several zoom calls per day with everyone in different offices.
In my current role, I'm not client facing (never had been in my career) most people I work with are offshore India/Philippines and London based. Going into an office to collaborate seems like a d-mb excuse but I do it anyway to get my quota - usually 4 days in office sometimes 5.
My only complaint is the tracking days and hours of folks going in. That is a little overkill and quite frankly takes away the flexibility of hybrid. My best hours in office are typically 3am to noon due to my teammates abroad. But people would see me leave the office anytime before lunch and think I'm coffee badging.
Hybrid flexible should be just that. Work the hours you need to in the office to support teammates or clients and spend the rest from home office. Number of hours and days shouldn't matter.
With gas prices increasing and all else going on in the world I can only see us reverting back to working from home more so companies don't have to pay us more money to offset th costs of commuting in.
@dt nobody cares. About you or your daughter.
@cg My commute is 35-40 minutes door to door, because I know I cannot plan my life around the WFH convenience today or in the future. I always thought about a convenient commute when I planned my real estate purchases. Most people so that. My wife is in the office 4-5 days a week as well - her company is way more strict than TIAA
@dg exactly. When people ask me what I do, I say I build custom playsets for my kids, Im my daughters best friend, I play bass in my church band. I never open with I’m a Senior Manager at TIAA blah blah blah. Trust me, my butt is in a cubicle at least 3 days a week for the entire workday, but once my laptop is closed, my real best life begins. This place is just a paycheck, and I’ll keep doing what I need to do to get that paycheck so I can keep buying my daughter her matchas haha
We aren’t getting paid to be productive, make an impact, provide lifetime income, or contribute to a greater mission. We are being paid to do what we are told to do. Whether that’s to run an unnecessary report or to sit our butts in a corporate cubicle. I think that’s the distinction. If we all went out on our own, yes we eat what we catch. But when you have a corporate employer, you just get paid to do what you are told. So act accordingly. Sit your butt in a cubicle 3x8 hours a week. Don’t work after 5pm. Don’t work weekends. Don’t make this job your personality. Don’t try harder than you need to to keep food on the table. Enjoy all your time away from here and don’t think about work or us at all.
Who do you think YOU are? You have zero right to tell someone “it’s disrespectful to keep taking money from the company but thinking other things take priority over what you’re getting paid to do”. The person is sharing their side of why they are not a fan of being in the office.
Bold of you to say they basically don’t deserve their job. If they weren’t doing their job, they’d get let go.
Get over yourself.
@cg then you shouldn’t work at tiaa . your time with family and doing hobbies are not more important than the actual people who are giving you a paycheck . it is disrespectful to keep taking money from the company but thinking other things take priority over what you’re getting paid to do .
Working in the office fans, do you enjoy spending 60 to 90 minutes a day commuting? Paying to park at some locations? Paying almost $5 a gallon for gas to sit in traffic? Having someone stand at your desk talking while you’re trying to get stuff done? Taking zoom call after zoom call? Not being able to have a photo of your kids or significant other on your desk that you share with anyone who books it? I guess I’m just lazy because the pandemic showed me that I can get all of my work done from my home office and maybe have a better quality of life. The in office mandate is about control and making all of that real estate have a purpose. I don’t enjoy being a minion and falling in line to the corporate overlords because if something happened to me, they’d have a new butt in my seat in a matter of days. I’m not sure my coworkers would be all that sad. Not driving into the office gets me some time back. I’d rather invest that time in things/people who I love rather than the company who I exchange labor for cash with. My commitment ends at my 40 hours, but that’s me being lazy.
This is a nonsense argument repeated by the media that doesn't make any sense
Someone with a 5-10 years of experience at TIAA in Manhattan and total salary/bonus of 150K or so + their partner can absolutely buy a nice 2br/2bath apartment in Yonkers or Hartsdale with a pretty comfortable commute to NYC by Metro North. Instead, some choose cr-ppy living in NYC where they need to pay city tax and insane rents
Why are you so interested in where other people work? Believe me, I couldn't give a fu-k where you spend your workday, as long as it's away from me...😘
And our parents and grandparents were easily able to buy a house, raise a family, maybe even take a vacation or two, all on one salary and no fear of routine, recurrent rounds of layoffs.
Let me know when we get back to that for most of us and I'll be back in office. Until then, try not to choke on that boot!
@OP People have become so lazy. Our parents and grandparents go up early everyday, and got their behinds to work everyday and on time. And they took care of the kids, their parents, AND their neighbors. This new generation thinks money grows on trees and they don't have to work to earn it. And if they don't like their job, they can quit and get another job. But they won't be able to find another job with AI taking over many and companies not hiring. And on top of all that, they make videos of them crying and complaining that they lost their job to get the video clicks up to make income. Making social media video's to make income. I mean talk about lazy.