Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Agile is 25-30 years old. There's no better way?

Society/civilization hasn't come up with a better way to do things than multi-decade old agile?

It's ironic. When it comes to tech, newer is usually better. But not agile.

I've been sheltered at Wells for years, so I'm not sure how today's current successful tech world does things. Seems hard to believe agile still rules the day though.

It's just a sloppy, do-nothing-to-facilitate-completion-of-work way to do things. Over the top amount of talking and meetings. Always. Just endless talking and meetings. Followed by frantic deadlines the keeps everyone stressed out.


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Wow more AI slop that just regurgitated the slop posted by the smooth brains on this Board. You deserve to be fired.

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Post ID: @v7+1k5rzwbhr

@qk, your post blames regulation and geography for Agile's "swamp" at Wells Fargo, but that's management's excuse to cling to control. Agile thrives in regulated banking with psychological safety—essential for collaboration, self-critique, and innovation, as HBR notes. Wells Fargo's failures? A fearful culture lacking safety, per Edmondson, where bullying and offshoring ki-l teams, not rules. JPMorgan's Scaled Scrum across global teams cut cycle times and delivered $1.5B AI value in 2023, complying with regs via empowered squads. Truist post-merger used Agile for cloud/digital onboarding, boosting deposits 42% in 2024 despite branches nationwide. {where is BE?}. ING's 350 cross-country squads sped launches 60%, handling GDPR via iterative compliance. Rocket Mortgage's Scaled Scrum reduced cycles 93% in regulated lending, dominating with AI. SoFi's squads scaled to $500M ARR in fintech-banking. Geography? ING and JPMorgan prove diverse teams succeed with safety. Regulation? These banks embed controls in sprints. Wells Fargo's real issue: fear—management bullies via "wagile," fearing Agile's team control. Safety unlocks Agile; without it, you're right—it's a swamp. Document abuses anonymously, join Wells Fargo Workers United, or file EEOC complaints. Read The Fearless Organization for fearless banks like JPMorgan. My mission: fearless workplaces. There's a better option!
Prompt: Provide detailed examples of successful Agile implementations at large, highly regulated banks with geographically diverse teams (e.g., across countries or regions), such as JPMorgan Chase, Truist Financial, ING Bank, Rocket Mortgage, and SoFi. For each, describe the key strategies, challenges overcome (like regulation, bureaucracy, and geographic separation), outcomes (e.g., productivity gains, time-to-market reductions), and how psychological safety enabled team collaboration and self-critique, drawing from Amy Edmondson's framework in The Fearless Organization. Contrast with failures in fear-based cultures like Wells Fargo's 'wagile,' where lack of safety leads to silos and bullying."

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Post ID: @sy+1k5rzwbhr

Agile will never work in a risk mgt-driven, highly regulated industry like Finance. The emphasis on controls and change risk management will always lead to a bloated bureaucracy like the one Wells has now. Add to that the geographically separated offices and generally lower talent level plus the cultural problems WF Tech brings to the table, and you have the swamp that exists today.

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Post ID: @qk+1k5rzwbhr

It is great when the original principles are adhered but this company has created a centralized ba----dized version of it that is the antithesis of agile.

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Post ID: @qh+1k5rzwbhr

From what I’ve seen, Agile is just a digital-age version of the Franklin-Covey system that has been working for eons. So just wait a few years, it’ll be outdated too

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@aj+1k5rzwbhr

HY reads this and thinks, "I wonder if 50,000 people in one big office could pull it off...someone get Bangalore on the ho-n!"

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Post ID: @c3+1k5rzwbhr

Agile primarily serves to force the productive engineers to spoon feed the underperforming offshores who make an art of playing d-mb until someone else does their work for them. Super annoying way to start the day.

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Post ID: @ay+1k5rzwbhr

Agile depends on highly skilled developers who can collaborate, communicate, understand the business, etc. Wells Fargo uses it to manage the cheapest developers possible.

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Post ID: @aw+1k5rzwbhr

@aj - This is the best definition and explains exactly why its a failure at Wells.

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Post ID: @ap+1k5rzwbhr

Agile is great for a small co-located team. Lots of talking in person and working on the features real time. Wells does not do that.

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Post ID: @aj+1k5rzwbhr

What passes for agile at Wells Fargo is very different than how other companies have implemented it. It has it's issues but if you've been sheltered at Wells you've likely never seen a company that's actually trying to do it well

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Post ID: @ac+1k5rzwbhr

Wells Fargo has never been agile, and never will be.

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