Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@v1 looks like we found the poor fool in charge if tbe project lol.

@q8 shut up

@p3 Have you looked at it or even used it. It looks and feels like the excel spreadsheets I used back in 1997.

@p3 your response itself tells me you don’t actually understand systems and engineering. And legacy tech debt.

@nh how is it going back in time when it is a current Oracle product used by thousands of companies around the world every day?

@gj it’s not properly consolidating the wrong data.

ODW was needed because JC never fixed it before. JC had decades to fix it.

ODW will make it so much worse than before.

ODW is going back in time to the 2000’s.

@jt well we have offices in 15 states and multiple locations in each area so...hundreds of people in dozens of offices, not all on your floor. Again, just read your email and it spells out how to get help, or check the inside page, it is all right there in front of you all

@gx Hundreds of people walking the floors? I could probably count everyone on every floor of the building and not use all the fingers on one hand.

@fq do you not read any of the emails or check the site? There are dozens of ways and hundreds of people walking the floors to help. Some of you are just outing yourselves as candidates for layoffs, it's not that hard.

its about consolidating data to a single place, not about giving you a fancy UI.

How do we give feedback about issues or even just comments on ODW? It's not immediately obvious how to do this.

@ck always been that way, you're just grasping at straws for a conspiracy

@d0 Exactly lol!

My org doesn't use 99% of the stuff that is in our portal and while we don't technically have "access" to those things, we can still "access" the link... a skilled hacker could easily manipulate permissions and grant themselves access to those various portals.

I mean, we don't use time cards or have any reason to look at "Finance - accounting, planning, tax" but yet, all the links contained within that tab are available.

As a security expert, you take away anything and everything that a user doesn't need and, if they end up needing it then they have to request that access.

The entire thing is slop and is nothing more than Dell slapping together a portal that Oracle has as a default portal - Out of the Box - portal. The ONLY way to tell it's even a dell portal is the little "One Dell Way" blurb in the top left corner lmfao. Otherwise, it's just a default Oracle dashboard

@d0 The 2FA is stupid and totally unnecessary but it looks good on paper. As if hackers give two shts about how much you make, your address or when you took PTO lol.

Looks good to the execs but ultimately serves little to no purpose.

It also is a 50/50 it even asks for 2FA anyways lol

@ck What's your point, exactly?

I can't speak for other countries but, in the USA...

We know this already. Just because it says "contractually fixed" doesn't mean anything at all because 99.99% of US employees are literally an "at-will" employee. Regardless of what company you work for, you are ALWAYS an "at-will" employee

You do realize that in the USA, 49 states have an "at-will" layoff/fire policy, right? The exception is Montana if you were curious. Which very few Dell employees even live in Montana anyways and those who do, are no safer from anything than anyone else. if you live in Montana, what difference does it really make? At best you get notified you are being laid off xyz days/weeks in advance but you are literally still getting laid off, so it makes zero difference in the end. I'd bet money that every single US employee is a "contractually fixed" employee - even those in Montana!

As for your expert assumption that "mass layoffs" will happen in/after May? I highly doubt it. "ODW/Maveric" just launched and that made JC happy.

@da what does ODW have to do with sw development? It's an Oracle product used by 10,000 companies around the world

@cd That's because Dell knows absolutely nothing about enterprise-class software development. To that end, Dell knows nothing about software development at all. Yet, ironically, it has tens of thousands of Engineers who consume hundreds of millions of dollars each year pretending like they do. Dell is a laughing stock when it comes to software development. The market knows it.

@cm The funny part about having to use 2FA is that in app security is a joke. You get access to modules you shouldn't and the app is full of test data they didn't wipe before moving this into production.

The biggest question remains however, where is the improved functionality?

I have to log in multiple times a day using 2FA ffs. Even when I'm on the VPN. I timed it 'cause I've nothing better to do that today I spent 20mins just logging onto the dreadful thing.

In the new portal, look at your absence calendar, now click on a day. On the right, you'll see a sidebar appear that contains your employment info. Some of you may see "Contractual Fixed" where you thought you were permanent employees. In "At Will" states, employers are not required to notify of an employment status change. They are preparing for massive layoffs sometime after May, and are quietly recategorizing employees to reduce associated costs.

@bj "Right now you have to do 5-6 clicks and multiple page reloads to get ecen the simpliest information out of it."

You just described literally every tool I have been forced to use here at Dell. At least we're consistent....

We can all thank JC for this stupidity on full display.

It is SLOW

Since I haven’t been at Dell my whole life, I can honestly say,we either went real cheap or threw this together to check a box. Nothing in ODW makes my job easier. Nothing. It was purely taken out of the box, tweaked a little and rolled out. What took 2.5yrs was the data sets from multiple systems, mapping, massaging it and loading it. It’s missing a lot of the Workday data (take a look at your professional profile). The UI is very 2000’s looking and I find it slow. Maybe need to index some of the back end data? The bug list on this thing must be a mile long.

The whole issue here is that this was made by engineers for engineers. Sure, you can check off that the use case works so why should you care. But this is just moving the same broken process and moving it into a new app. I guarantee no UI/UX expert would sign off this thing going live.

This should have started with firtst optimizing the UI first and then creating the backend accordingly. Right now you have to do 5-6 clicks and multiple page reloads to get ecen the simpliest information out of it.

It's embarrassing!!