Thread regarding L3Harris Technologies layoffs

I've only had one VSM (value stream manager) at a time. But from 2021 to 2023 I had SEVEN of them in rapid succession. They were all from outside the industry and they all said they would change the way we did things. They all also left on their own with little or no fanfare. I just couldn't keep up.stopped counting managers in 2023.

@38d BB was a real POS. He sold us out. Wimpy looking little tu-d.

@383 Not sure if HR would release/share info. You could try a survey. Only one question: who did you hate more: CK or BB? The L3 : Harris ratio!

Is there a way to get a ratio of old L3 Employees laid off last year and this year versus the old Harris employees prior to the merge to L3Harris?

@1ve Thank you for identifying this issue. To address, a new initiative will be created with 3 VPs.
Each VP will manage a team of Sr Directors, who will each manage a team of Directors, who will each manage a team of Sr Managers, who will each manage a team of managers, each who manage one guy actually doing the work named Jose.

Meetings will be held twice a day, to discuss why Jose is not working fast enough. The first idea is to discuss adding an additional manager.

Wait what manager? I think I have 10 or so! The one at corp. or the one 2000 miles away, maybe the six in Palm Bay? Oh, I know the one that wants me to participate in E-week and flex my time, so I don't use 3 hours of IDL. Got it, can't have too much overhead!

@1f5, if reverse engineering was such a Profit center then RTX (Raytheon) would not have sold their Nightwing division to private equity Blackrock. Why do you think they did that for?

@1f5 - you must have never heard the story about Cube Box?

@aq reverse engineering is being targeted? Why its a massive business for many companies

@rt yes for employees it is : written warning (corporate emails), final notice (given to employees who badge swipes are unsatisfactory), and then termination.

Is there any action being taken now for the folks that aren’t swiping in everyday?

@b2 I see a bunch of the software engineers who realize that AI is going to replace their jobs and are upset about it are voting down your post. It is funny and they can reflect upon their choices and behavior when they’re out of work and can’t provide for their families.
I guarantee you, software layoffs in the next six months big time.

@pr it’s very funny that you mentioned forklift driving for white collar workers, because back in the 1990s in Palm Bay they loaded that mandatory requirement learning onto the higher level (4,5,&6) white collar workers as a requirements. Everyone thought it was a big joke, but perhaps it was an insight into the future.

@jz, you are correct about touch labor, being harder and harder to find people that can actually perform proficiently, young people nowadays wants to do white collar jobs like software (which is currently being replaced by AI), so it’s funny those people are gonna to be performing jobs like forklift driving or some other form of blue blue-collar labor in the end anyway.

@a3 He'll do what ever management tell him to do. I've known that brat since he was a new employee and his aunt got him and his brother a job here. He didn't get elected president. He was VP until he double-crossed the union president and got him removed. He got a big increase for union members because he will allow the company to lay off people without consideration of seniority. He's going to allow members of management back into the union and bump members out.
He will be well-compensated for this. He and his brother will have jobs until the building falls down.

@fj The company never walks away from contract negotiations without gaining something. Ask the union president how many of his people he agreed to be laid off in exchange for that big increase. The company will pay more money because the same amount of work is expected from fewer people. If you're a union member and you get laid off this coming April, it will be because your union president sold you out.
He already has the list of people he will lose.

@fk the reason the union president was able to get such a large increase for touch labor is because that skill set is harder and harder to come by. People who are skilled and willing to work with their hands building and testing the products that make all of your other jobs possible. Unlike many of you, they had to physically come to work during the pandemic. Those of you that left the union for salaried positions decided it was a good move for you. Perhaps you decided that working with your hands was beneath you. For whatever reasons, it's a one-way trip. That is contractual. Once you leave the union for a management job, you have 6 months to decide if you want to keep it. None of you went back during that grace period. You posted for the jobs. You took the offer. You left the union. Now live with your decision. The union will not take you back and they are not contractually obligated to do so. You would have to resign from the company, and reapply as a new employee, beginning your seniority journey over again.

The union president got them a 18% increase over the course of the contract. While management will get peanuts. That’s why they all went back in.

@a3 The union president got them a really good contract. 18% increase. That’s people want to get in.

@b4 palm bay is being set on fire

Had a 1:1 with my manager and this didn't come up. Is this all divisions and functions?

@b2, AI also is currently replacing artist, illustrators, book writers, music songwriters, music instrument players, actors, pretty much anything to do with the artistic abilities of mankind is being duplicated by AI. YouTube videos are now being completely done by AI.

The promotional and informational video group in Palm Bay may want to be concerned.

I’m going to attempt to get AI to do all my work PowerPoint.

@ar - AI can write software in any software language very quickly, and only requires one person to double check the code. You can replace all your entry and mid level software guys currently with AI and AI is only getting better by the day. For a person just starting out in there work career it is very questionable to invest time and money into a software degree from a university. The college costs will be extremely difficult to repay when you have to do some blue collar job to support yourself and your family

@ar Very specific people at a very specific location.

@aq software? That seems a bit odd to target

I was told that if you’re a software, data engineer or a reverse engineering security engineer you might want to reevaluate your career choice, and pretty quickly at that

@am sounds like you're not in management. I'm a PE and our GL requested to step down today because of this.

@aj partially true. They're looking into it to avoid costly L6/L7s that haven't done their corporate duties

@OP that hasn't happened.

What this rumor I hear about AI taking over part of the managers responsibilities to cut cost?
Why do I visualize the humping robot from the TV show Robot Chicken?

@OP what is the most recent notification

No way…..meaning if they work remote instead, the manager gets fired? Where is this being implemented? What segment?

Well, Valentine’s Day is right around the corner and tomorrow is Thursday plus the Kube doesn’t love you anymore so tomorrow could be a prime day for managerial layoffs.

@a4 its not just your manager its you too.

If the right number of us coordinated our tardiness, would it have a quantum effect on our managers' involuntary separation?

Is that why some of the salaried people in Clifton are trying to get back into the union?
The new union president is a real stronzo if he lets that happen.
But we know he is one don't we.

Yup just got the notification.

You mean if I start goofing off too much, my manager gets fired? EPIC !!
Let the games begin.