Between layoffs, RTO, increased offshoring, and other forms of attrition, it feels like I’m standing on ground that’s slowly melting away. Great for morale, of course.
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@ag You mean all of his cousins, brothers, sisters, aunts, and uncles?
But if collaborating with all the other other Southwest Twin Cities residents who are NOT on my team doesn't save us, maybe AI will! Yes, the push to train everyone in AI is almost comical. Doesn't matter that I will never use any of it.
Tiger team picking vendors to replace in-house and accounting to look profitable.
Even with lower IOI we make more profit margin selling vendor's products than our own. Massive layoffs, no build, little support. Just sales.
Going to be big cuts of lots of teams that are currently "making money" but because there's a cost they gotta go.
I was warned not to move from corporate over to Optum because of the instability and lack of job security. Wish I had listened. They’re talking about wanting to expand our department, but with the poor morale, RTO and uncertainty about our jobs, everyone in my group has their resume out to other companies.
What do you get when you have a company with zero loyalty to their employees? Employees with zero loyalty to their employer. We will all jump ship with no notice and not a second thought given.
@mm Most 28 job titles are “manager.” I think most “managers” have direct reports that they manage.
@rc from what I’ve seen, they’re not in tech. They’re in clinician experience or membership operations or some other non technical field.
@rc Yes, but these 29s and 30s with no reports are the first to get targeted for RIFs.
@mm It's completely normal for there to be 29s and 30s in the tech side that have no direct reports.
@k3 You're supposed to have at direct reports at 29, not at 28. I have heard they're cracking down on that 29s that have less than 3 reports. Whether that's true, I cannot confirm. I do know that 28 without reports is normal and expected, though.
@fj sooo many 28s-30s who have no direct reports. You’re supposed to be a manager, director, or VP??
@fj This is all at WellMed?
most analyst and any other data type of positions will be replaced with AI. Eventually, everything else will follow. It is being dismantled. Layoffs everywhere, not just with this corporation. The world is changing. Not sure it's for the best. Corporate greed is correlated. Perhaps some of the executives could cut their pay for "cost effective measures" (i.e., layoffs).
@ba clinical performance, provider experience, member experience - plenty SG 30 + deadweight in those areas being let go next round. Too many chiefs x100
departments outside OT are getting replaced with SD tiger teams of Indian-Americans and/or other OT folks. He's still learning the ropes but giving folks carte blanche authority to run over leadership and do his ill-informed bidding. Blown away when my whole team is getting duplicated/replaced and everyone says "oh SD is so smart and conscientious, can't believe what's happening" kissing the ring as their roles fade away.
Optum AI will replace OI after it's half gutted including product, commercial, etc. burn every last relationship we have. The plan is cut cost and quality and compete on price. not every american company wants to outsource to Infosys/Wipro. even struggling hospitals aren't going to put up with the cliff dive in quality and service that's coming.
all of SD's read-ins and every change has to be done yesterday. Teams are scrambling to justify existence and nothing is thought out. That means sloppy change for change's sake with nada planning or strategy. Going to cut the wrong things, for sure.
As a new hire fairly high in pay scale, I am really nervous at how many people above, at, or just below me have been here a year max. People here two years? They are considered experts.
If it wasn’t for being told my old job was laying us all off 12/31, I would really be kicking myself. I still sort of am.
Need to get the 100x knuckle draggers out of company leadership. This AI to tie your shoes bs is a great example.
Been here about fifteen years and the past two have shown the most incompetent development leadership in my entire career. I miss working for an actual tech company and UHG should divest their OI engineering organizations to someone that doesn't have their head up their ar-e.
@ag 100%. Bunch of us pulled into new candystores. Folks are cherrypicked to chase shiny things with zero planning and run at "sales" ignoring existing work/teams, logic or strategy. Run fast at the bouncing red ball. Only thing worse than a hollow vision, disorganization, and constant change is running at it quickly.
Critical resources with 10 to 25 years with the company have either left, found new jobs, or they're already interviewing. They keep hamstringing our engineers/innovators with increasing loads of security requirements and bridling everyone with additional jobs. Engineering teams have lost critical mass and it's all arranging deck chairs on the Titanic now. No one to blame but leadership.
we are on a sinking ship. culture is bad, pay is bad, and our competition does it better than us. We peaked just before covid. Optum is no longer cool and it never will be. Time to leave.
What departments are going to be hit in Oct? Wellmed Texas and Florida again. This last one was BAD !
Where is everyone at on the mood elevator now.....culture is shot, post 2018 it's been a downward spiral of acquisition and bad investments driven by pet projects that aren't grounded in reality
@a7 Yep. Candyman is moving at lightning speed with zero strategy other than cut stuff and build back. The impression is, you all are terrible at your jobs across OI/OA, only SD and his Indian buddies know the right way to do everything. The duplicity of his new pet teams will duplicate existing projects at the same time as the cutting. His plans are infuriating internal teams and will devastate our client relationships.
Yes, from conversations, this next round is going to be a doozy I’m afraid.
The whole country is being dismantled. Enjoy your CEO kings.