Thread regarding Lumen Technologies layoffs

What the winner does not know, the gambler understands.

“ My problem is not directly about driving costs out of the business, but rather trying to figure out just what the business is now, and what it will be in the future - at least beyond the marketing headlines . . . “

“ I'll have a crack at answering this ... I think that if you join the dots, the business model for mid-large enterprise is pretty clear: provide connectivity solutions that facilitate and support (1) the migration of enterprise customers to cloud and (2), as a subset of this, edge networking/on-prem private cloud.

AI is driving tremendous growth for the large cloud providers (AWS, Microsoft, Google), but perhaps the greater benefit to these operators is not the sale of AI enterprise products per se, but its role in accelerating the migration of enterprise to the cloud in the first place.

Lumen can support and benefit from this by developing connectivity products that can be provisioned quickly, and which otherwise incorporate similar product characteristics as the Saas and compute services they are purchasing from the cloud providers (pay-as-you-go pricing, rapid scalability and burstability, online provisioning, etc); as well as (for large enterprise) one-stop-shop access to multi-cloud via Exaswitch. If Lumen can do that, then from an end-user perspective you will have something approaching an end-to-end seamless Saas/Naas experience, from connectivity to the cloud service itself. From there, it's not hard to see cloud and connectivity being bundled in together as a joint product pursuant to partnership/master reseller arrangements. If co-branding with AWS/MSFT/Google doesn't drive sales, nothing will.

That kind of proposition would take a little while to ramp up, but if they get it right it would be a very successful initiative. And in terms of edge compute, it's arguable that the cloud providers need something like Lumen to do something like this, for it to really take off. None of them has the metro and last mile fiber assets that Lumen has, and for the next couple of years they'll have their hands full trying to build out more compute capability and deal with the energy issues associated with that. “

“ I think that this is Kate's big idea, and why she's been able to attract Dave Ward and Satish Lakshmanan to the company. “

“ So it's all still mainly about selling circuits, just 21st-century fit-for-purpose ones rather than 20th-century relics.”

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Kate definitely isn’t winning right now. Not in the old CTL territories.
We are cleaning Lumon’s clock. Last week, I inked a deal with ATT to place new BRIGHTSPEED circuits in 2500 of their towers. We took that business from them. Verizon is next up.
We also reversed every link Storey moved onto L3 networks, back to our networks & we won’t stop till they have no customers in our territories.

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Post ID: @2rcv+1sX2riDm

I am amazed that our employees do not understand our business.
1 day ago by Anonymous | 9 reactions (+8/-1)
Post ID: @mlh+1sX2riDm

What exactly is the Lumen business?

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Post ID: @2bik+1sX2riDm

Interesting...I havent heard Kate say win like he-l in a while. I hadnt realized she must have dropped it. We really dont hear much from her anymore.

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Post ID: @1vxl+1sX2riDm

There is a reason princess Kate dropped the win like he-l hashtag after getting get a-s kicked in the market

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Post ID: @1zqg+1sX2riDm

spot on -- the new employees don't understand the business

we hire technologist and they implement what they know, except it makes no sense here

so just implement technology without true purpose ... building bridges to nowhere

if we knew who we were, and what our legacy DNA looks like ... the architecture would be simple -- stay put and forget about the cloud and AI

alas, that seems unlikely

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Post ID: @hyj+1sX2riDm

What a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive….

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Post ID: @htk+1sX2riDm

I thought this company had some kind of vision and direction to "disrupt" things.
To me, from the quotes above it sounds like theres a lot of hopium going on..."if they get it right"...."cloud providers need someone like Lumen"..."for the next couple of years they'll (cloud providers) will have their hands full"..."if co-branding with aws/msft/etc doesnt drive business"

What the heck. Its all just hope that this happens or that happens. Do we even have any co-branding deals with any of the cloud providers yet? Why would they even want to do that?
So yeah...i get the title the OP started this thread with. The SLT is just gambling with this disruption cr-p...because they certainly arent on the winning side.

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Post ID: @sjw+1sX2riDm

You do not need both hands to scratch the itch...meaning: diversification is what gets you through the "times of disruption" like these. We cannot even take care of the existing customers we have until this disruptive force takes hold???!!??? Take a quick peek at how well the forced TDM conversions are going (real world stuff, not corporate spin records) and soon your optimism for this, takes some time stuff, will be subdued as well. We are late to the game as always and SLT's implementation record is extremely weak and seemingly getting worse the faster we try to go! There is a clear, defined reason for us hemorrhaging revenue and customers like it was yesterday's click bait my VIP friend. We are already 3 years beyond this 5 year transformation journey (SLT said (1st ones)) and now we hear, "it's just gonna take some time and IF they roll this out properly (lots of recent real world examples that continue to show the contrary: Activations & Repair) blah,blah,blah.

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Post ID: @vgn+1sX2riDm

I am amazed that our employees do not understand our business. The two most useless terms are Cloud and AI. There is no such thing. There are server farm and super-fast chips. LUMN provides neither. What they do provide is circuits that connect to server farms, residences, businesses, etc.

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