I have noticed a pattern that is driving me crazy. The people who are best at dodging work and shifting their responsibilities onto others seem to be the ones getting promoted. At the same time, the dedicated employees burn out and leave, and eventually nothing gets done. Is anyone else seeing this, or is it just happening in my corner of the company?
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Agreed. I've talked to so many managers who are just twiddling away their thumbs and trying to find their staff work to do. its demotivating for our team when everyone else seems to be having a leisurely time and we're working hard. Our team never gets recognition or promotions.
@jg that whole arrangement is a scam. Even the ad space is BS. One of the big 4 is the prime. We are just Amazon with a smile and a monthly rental fee
@ma yes, deception is their strength. If they ever give you and answer or tell you something is being done, don’t believe it because it is documented. Go to the DCs and you will see it is bulkshit. R is a BS guy perpetrating as if he is an exec and then talking bad about them to us managers so that we have his back. Incidents are hidden so he can get promoted.
@k2 Lots. We also have a problem with blatant ageism permeating throughout certain business units.
@ky
I interesting...maybe explains discrepancies with processes.
From the sales/customer facing side...I never remember having to apologize as much or make excuses as I've had in the last few years. Distribution data feeds and online info for lead time and inventory seemed to be more accurate years before.
Probably coupled with layoffs and new hires/replacements doing the same jobs.
The machine overall is strong though in spite of everything...shipping $5 billion last quarter. Imagine Edwardson or Richard's leading the ship...stock could be $300.
You mean like the distribution. Center heads that were hired by their best friend that grew up with. That is why all of that bullsh-t happens and is hidden from the executives. He will stop at nothing to be on the exec team and will pretend to be a nice guy when he is hit head with not fu--ing ethics. A new CEO needs to come in and replace almost every leader starting with the ethics lead who let’s this sh-t happen.
Like directors who become practice VPs
@k2
To answer your question...lots of managers and directors and up don't deserve to be in the positions they are.
So much favoritism that I've seen over the years because someone is friends with a manager or higher...but lacks the ability to excel at those roles they're"placed in".
These people move up and obtain more power then place thier buddies in roles...Leahy then Liz... also look at how most of the SVP's are newer to CDW...where'd all rhe legacy CDW leaders go (a bunch left in 2013 at IPO and went to LinkedIn....since then...those managers and directors that stayed have slowly left or gotten pushes put because everyone wants everyone ro be deaf d-mb and blind during working hours and nor point out issues).
@k0 I don’t know enough about legal to comment on their matters. but my sister in law works in legal and she said the heart and soul of their group was su-ked out when CL left and replaced by a know it all GC that no one likes..I wonder how many groups at cdw are led by bad leaders.
I like the comment a few posts down sbout the hiring of an attorney to run CDW. They are only involved in helping with legal wording for sales contracts. They help interpret business law and protect the company legally. That makes sense. But to run a business? Dum--ss move! Things got fu---d up. And to leave a guy as the general counsel that thinks that he can run other dept.s just as bad. Some people were hired to do their job ss was my friend and he had worked and led cyberattacks in his deep history in the government and big a-s world companies. When we had the cyber attacks, my friend warned of transparency and doing things legally and he was ignored. In fact, he was ultimately talked to in a one on one by the very man leading the crisis. He knows the law but he overstepped his bounds with that and some other sh-t that was not in his wheel house. The GC is a pompous a-s who pretends to know it all even and iis just an attorney. I believe we did not take the ethical nor possibly legal steps to communicate. My friend had a chief position but was ignored and unheard. That fu---d with me because my friend us to provide help and advise because he listens to real experts. But his boss didn’t listen and confronted him on why he was challenging the advise and talking to his team’s leaders. Please end this admiration for attorneys in cdw. They are NOT fu--ing business coworkers.
"They fail to realize that thier top performers and revenue/gp producers aren't just good at managing business internally but they can also manage thier own personal finances as well and eventually can replicate their yearly CDW income by investing" .......THIS!! Best thing I did was teach myself options years ago, my investing income is almost as much as my CDW income, without even touching my capital. Only reason I'm still here is life/work flexibility and waiting for that RIF check should it come my way. Give me that I can put all this corporate b#llshit behind me (at least what CDW has turned into).
Liz blows!! Nuff said.
@jg
Don't worry....they'll offer it to coworkers at a steep discount to get some $ back ans then donate the rest as a tax writeoff so they can look and feel good in thier circle of elites.
Remember the iPad's a few years back.
It's all for marketing and thinking they'll get new business.
Personally I had enough and quit...going out on top hitting all metrics as I saw my paycheck drop drastically due to compensation changes.
They fail to realize that thier top performers and revenue/gp producers aren't just good at managing business internally but they can also manage thier own personal finances as well and eventually can replicate their yearly CDW income by investing. Imagine buying Micron or SanDisk stock a year or 2 ago...CDW was better off investing in partners since CDW has in depth info on technology demand...could've more than doubled the investment....but instead...Sirius 🤣
@j0 speaking of the olympics.. we were told all the equipment that we are providing to them isn't even being purchased... all that used equipment will be back in cdw's warehouse after the olympics. Whose genius idea was it that we do that
With love and compassion, I tell you that if you don't like it you should leave because nothing will change because of this board. The big myth out there is that there are no jobs; but there are jobs for AI forward knowledge workers. I would 100% change up your resume and make it all about AI and your knowledge of how to apply it, relative to your field. It's the winning move. Fear not.
@fj
Sorry...who at this point is protecting any of these people creating this mess at the top. They all hang out and attend the same ritzy events. Thier families know each other but not yours and they don't care to know how the people beneath them are doing while they continue padding their pockets yearly with millions.
Funny how a lot of what's going wrong started when CEO brought on Liz.
She demoralizes sellers.
Under her...I personally had drastic cuts in commission even though I consistently surpassed my goals/metrics (100%+ GP/REV and did every BS extra task outside of servicing customers and partners).
You think people want to slave more for diminishing returns in their commission checks.
She basically capped the majority of sellers and had a major hand in having us duplicate data entry while they butchered existing CDW systems (that weren't the best but they worked and were efficient). Cases for DS RMA's were like filing for taxes and cases in general take days instead of hours to complete.
Then she wanted to penalize sellers if they didn't sell Services even though entering cases and the whole process wasn't worth the time or effort considering you'd make more selling the legacy CDW product mix.
Under Liz...no more holiday bonuses and decreased profit sharing.
When you lose the morale of your sellers in a SALES company....you start losing the Value in Value Added Reseller.
She should go back to JPMorgan...but looking at their stock price after 2018 ... they skyrocketed since she left while CDW's has declined.
This person was brought in and made VP of Healthcare, VP of HR, VP of Verticals (being former JPMorgan...she should've shined here but failed), and now she's in charge of all revenue. Sellers, processes, and marketing like the Olympics will get CDW to $30 billion yearly.
Glad I left...I wouldn't follow these leaders to toilet if I needed to relieve myself let alone work one more second for multi millionaires that don't deserve anything more in life than KARMA.
@fj what part of her team do you work in. We work for her and can’t stop talking about her d-mb objectives and all of the admin bullsh-t she gives. And she micromanages and only promotes friends and those she likes instead of the performers. Worst of all, she doesn’t understand what we do. It is the blind leading those of us hungry for real leadership. I agree with you on your other comments.
@eq No- She’s way better than many. She at least lets people do their job without a bunch of mindless micromanagement. I have never seen a leadership team with so much fear of making the wrong decision, lack of confidence in their own downlines and mission paralysis. What is it that makes them that way? My theory is that they really just don’t know the industry or what to do. And so no confidence (because how can you? ) and no context. Sad.
Liz is a total clueless
fu-k-up!
@e3 she used to be in sales at another company. A financial company. The question is why she was hired away from them to manage our HR team accross the entire company when she had no HR experience? She was never qualified. Then Gris carried her when she was promoted. Now another promotion. Friendship over qualifications and the stock is showing just that. Sorry but Liz is a dum--ss and we pretend to like her because we need our job but we cringe behind the scenes.
@dt
Difference is back in the day...more of this info was hidden and you'd just hear from inter company rumors and gossip and connecting the dots.
Now you see it in your face on LinkedIn.
Why is a the former SVP of HR running Sales.
There's an inner circle at CDW that promotes and protects those on "inside" and to be on the inside...you have to brown-nose and agree with everything.
Notice none of the newer directors/vp's and up don't get fired...just the tenured/legacy ones that performed decently (these people see the issues but aren't given the power or funds to fix).
Current leadership is there to gaslight and follow orders from above.
I think that's corporate America in general. I've worked at orgs where the people promoted were notorious for sc--wing up but were great at su-king up, being seen, and ensuring they invited the right people to their parties. I also once lost out on a manager position to a guy who it was later revealed had messed up so badly that the customer threatened legal action, so they promoted him away from that client and cost me the position even though I was a much better employee and everyone was flabbergasted.
@bh
Yup...went from SVP in HR to SVP in sales (the engine/$ generator for CDW)...
What'd she do...change comp in sales making it worse...so disincentivizing instead of lighting a fire...same or more work with more stress and red tape for the same or less $.
Wonder why the urgency and fire to ship everything and make more $...is gone.
Brought her in from JPMorgan...pushed out the legacy SVP's that got us to where we were and stock drops in half. She sure is enjoying traveling across America cutting ribbons and getting numerous "working" vacations on the company dime while outsourcing backbone and making everyone's daily job, more difficult.
Replaced leaders wearing suits to leaders wearing moo-moo's and flip flops.
Sh-t yeah. Our genius CEO hired a friend (Liz) to run an entire Human Resources function. She didn’t have any fu--ing experience in any HR in her entire career. And she fu---d it up! And now she is in over head agajn. These are the kinds of decisions that show we need a real CEO.
This isn’t only a CDW thing. Every corporation I’ve worked at has the same behaviour. Getting promoted has little to do with how hard you work; it’s much more about how well you navigate company politics and brown-nose the right people.
They are born managers. They know how to delegate. To YOU.
STOP
WORKING
HARD
FOR
CDW
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