Does anyone know how this is calculated? Google maps? A radius from the office in question?
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Straight line.
It used to be 35 miles (10 years ago) and has been extended to 40 miles. You will be automatically offered a package over 40 miles but WF will give you the option to stay. You will need to be ontime and cannot complain later about the time or cost.
When HR started laying off for location strategy, they allowed people to try the commute through the end of the year, before laying off for distance to a hub.
What's bizarre to me is that there isn't anything in writing that says that in order to work for Wells Fargo, you must be within 40 miles of your assigned Hub. I've read the hand book and I've read my work agreements with the company. Nowhere does it say that my employment is contingent on being within 40 miles of a Hub. It only speaks to if there is a change to your job where Wells Fargo requires you to change locations and that all of a sudden changes you from being inside of 40 miles, to being outside of 40 miles. Then that puts you in a difficult situation and they "offer" severance. If I choose to be closer to a hub, I should be allowed to live where I want to live regardless of the 40 mile radius.
That being said, if they are the ones paying for my commute every day, then I can see where they should have a say in where I live. But they don't and they won't. And therefore, they should stay out of where I want to live.
Bing maps
40 mile radius. Put your home address & work address in Google maps, Mapquest, trip advisor, etc you get the same mileage number. It’s a fixed calculation. It has nothing to do with “drive time” whatsoever. Some days my 20 mile drive is 20 minutes, some days over an hour.
@1bzr+1rgVI71S The 40 mile radius is not bizarre at all. No more so than any rule or policy.
It comes down to clarity and drawing a line in the sand. 40 miles can be applied anywhere and is a fixed target. Drive Time, as you pointed out, is variable and makes it impossible to use as a qualifying test. Today’s 1hr radius could be 4 years from now 2 hr. Now what, you’re SOL for being more than an hour away and someone has to recertify the travel time? How upset would you be about that happening and you losing your job that you liked?
Every aspect of what is going on here boils down to people used to the status quo. Grandfathered employees, used to how things have been for decades can’t comprehend why anything is changing. Change is always poorly received, especially when it perceived as a negative impact. As humans we always over focus on negatives vs the positives. Think about it, more people complain about a poor experience with a retailer than call the manager to report a good one.
End game, doesn’t matter what we think. No one posting here has deep insight into the choices being made. It’s all conjecture and assumption, some of which inevitably aligns with the truth.
All our days are numbered, but "yes and no" on the 40 mile thing. There's always people the rules don't apply to, and what about when you hire. I've never had a recruiter not allow me to hire someone, even now, because their home address is over 40 miles from the work location. It happens all the time in high cost of living environments. So, as usual, it's just another excuse to S can they people they want to S can.
it's relevant to the severance policy and based on what consumer lending is saying there isn't any wiggle room in the 40 miles, it is a hard cut. If there mapping calculation has you at 41 miles you are out. If you are at 60 miles and willing to commute you are out.
The 40 mile rule really is bizarre. There's many places in the US where a 20 mile commute will take over an hour, and many others where you could commute 50 miles in 45 mins. The number of miles really isn't relevant to anything.
As the tu-d flies
They take the shortest distance or time. And yes, they simply use Google Maps
consumer lending is holding some office hours around location strategy so if you are part of consumer lending perhaps go to one of those meetings and ask your question.
it states "using a mapping resource for this information as determined by the company". My guess is that it would be something like Google maps or bing or similar. perhaps whatever they are using in concur for mileage expense. they could also look at every possible route and take the minimum of those although they would probably use the most common route which begs the question, what if there are 2 commonly used routes where one is 38 miles and one is 42 miles.
We did but it doesn't explain how it's calculated. Helpful though!
read the benefits book section on severance