Thread regarding VMware layoffs

Pen, paper, and carrier pigeons are making a comeback.

Analog FTW!

This is the way.

@1b5 Plenty. OpenStack. Nutanix. Proxmox. Pextra. HyperV. Redhat. XenServer.

So no vsphere competition yet? That's so disappointing.

They forced everyone to work remotely. The experiment was very successful. Now there is no difference between someone working in Pal Alto or Timbuktu. Silicon Valley will be the Detroit of the tech industry. Abandoned houses and offices everywhere and the wilderness will encroach and take back the area just like Detroit. The Chinese are accelerating the process. Hock and team are in control.

My house in Bangalore 30x since 2000. It now costs more than similar houses in Silly Con Valley. Cry me a river. Consumer will choose lower cost and better quality for products and services. There is no difference between people working in the US and people working in other countries. The artificial barriers to labor movement will become less and less effective. The US has willingly become third world.

Is there a photo of Hock blowing bubba? They are all blackmailed.

Sounds like Nokia trying to convince people that this new fad called Apple is stupid. LOL. EVs are bad. Mainframes are good.

@j2 I read it too. It's a paid article that's not even coherent. I wish them luck

Vsphere is dying. Nutanix amongst others are picking away at its carcus . hock does what he always does, buys up stuff and bleeds it dry. Look what happened to Symantec. Same boring old playbook. Vultures only know how to vulture. The product was going down the toilet anyway because of cheap Indian support and coding. Constant do the needful, turn it off and on or its not our problem. Anything Indians are involved with turn to sh-t. Look at the state of windows and android, literally a walking overweight NSA spying wet dream. Indians would make snowden blush. Even windows 7 is making a come back windows 11 is so bad. The future is privacy, integrity and trust.

I accidentally walked into a tunnel in the campus. I came out on the SRI campus in a mind control lab.

I traded in my Corvette for a van. If can sell my house in Austin in the ongoing crash then I'll be all set for a van life.

Everything ran on mainframes once upon a time. Now less than 0.0001% workloads run on mainframes. The workloads running on private clouds will be there even after a few years but it will be hard to justify. This extortion is a short term phenomenon and it is accelerating the death of private cloud.

I asked ch$tgpt ....

There’s definitely a wave of vSphere alternatives gaining momentum — especially after Broadcom’s licensing changes. A few worth watching:

Nutanix AHV – Probably the most established enterprise-grade alternative. Its CEO, Rajiv Ramaswami, was VMware’s early COO, which makes its direction especially interesting.

OpenStack – Extremely powerful but complex, built on dozens of microservices like Nova, Neutron, Cinder, and Keystone. It requires deep engineering effort to manage effectively.

Pextra – A newer, modern solution with a clean UI, multi-cluster management, and cloud-native automation. Designed to simplify virtualization without legacy complexity.

Scale Computing (HC3) – Reliable and simple, well-suited for SMB and mid-market environments.

XCP-ng – Open-source, community-backed, and a practical path for smaller VMware migrations.

Harvester (SUSE) – Kubernetes-native, blending VMs and containers in one HCI platform.

Proxmox VE – Still popular for homelabs, but dated in architecture and not suited for serious enterprise workloads.

The virtualization landscape is evolving fast — and with ex-VMware talent behind many of these platforms, it’s clear that vSphere displacement is already underway.

What other products are out there?

Tech displacement... biggest mistake I've made was thinking it as always inevitable. EVs were supposed to replace motorcars by now so we were told, nuclear energy to replace fossil fuel way back in the 1950s, and similarly the most profitable software franchise at Broadcom is... the mainframe software division! All these middle aged techies who told for the last 20 years that their tech would die any day all drive Corvettes and Porsches to this Broadcom office now. So don't think your best move is sell or code or study or hope for tomorrow's supposed disruptor & displacer, hype machines make $$ selling you belief in that. Trains still run on tracks making big $$ after over a hundred years of trucks and new transportation tech being the 'next big thing'.

No one needs private cloud - Ha! Cost is always the reason for all tech migrations. All was on mainframe long ago, then folks said Hey IBM is charging whatever they way, let's string together these PCs I just bought my high school kid instead, and client-server PC networks were born. Then folks said hey, this client-server hardware and software are expensive, but Amazon is offering to take it all on their end via a new thing called - they changed the name of the internet to "the cloud" you see. Now folks are saying AWS is charging me way too much! Can I just build or buy this in house instead of pay them so much for their public version? This cycle will repeat over and over based on moving to whatever people believe to be cheaper, whether that's true or not.

I liked this blog man, they hit it right in the nuts:

https://cloudinfra.blog/transparency-lost-the-rise-of-confusing-bundles-and-hidden-costs-in-virtualization/

The gigawatts of hyper scalers built out will just wipe out any need for significant private cloud. No one needs private cloud. Otherwise one of the hyper scalers would have bought VMware. No need for Dell to do a roll up.

VMware had its own email and document system. They were ki-led and we got Microsoft first and then now Google mail and document systems. It is all coordinated between these monopolies. They will ki-l the private cloud at the right time. It's going to happen like a flip of a switch.

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None of what you say matters, as it isn’t part of Hocks râpe-book.

You 10 years of work have been handed over to a horrible human being. The only closure you can get is when the dictator finally turns to dust.

Home grown tech companies will takeover. It's already happening everywhere.

Top US enterprises are all part of a circular accounting scheme. I buy some junk from you for 10 billion and you buy some other junk from me for 10 billion. Or X buys from Y and Y buys from Z and Z buys from X. Most other countries will detach from this scam. The AI circular accounting has reached trillions. The game is over.

Proxmox fan? It is a low end group of hi$$ies ...

https://cloudinfra.blog/why-proxmox-is-not-enterprise-ready-a-technical-breakdown/

It is the same universe. Europe is Evil :-)

@ap Ahh, Europe, the old Enemy.

Did I somehow go into an alternate universe where a company being in the EU is somehow eeeeevil?

Proxmox is outdated. A lot of issues. There is reason why have no technical support 24/7. It is an old stack that impossible to update. It also sits in Europe. Does not work for US

proxmox is outdated? Just months ago I worked for a company that replaced a good 80% of their VMWare infrastructure with ProxMox. Worked flawlessly.

The reason? Cost for one thing, but the final straw was VMWare wasn't compatible with the storage infrastructure, and caused multiple hours long outages several times over several years.