Everyone I just got 100% confirmation there will be about 500 layoffs tomorrow July 8 2024. This came straight from my manager. His boss told him and he wanted to give me a heads up. Neither had details what team will be hit so just be prepared.
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Post ID: @ipo+1tp7CKQK, I updated your chart with the latest 2024 10-K info.[1]
Year | T-Mobile | Sprint
2024 | 70,000
2023 | 67,000
2022 | 71,000
2021 | 75,000
2020 | 75,000
2019 | 53,000 | 28,500
2018 | 52,000 | 30,000
2017 | 51,000 | 28,000
2016 | 50,000 | 30,000
2015 | 50,000 | 31,000
2014 | 45,000 | 36,000
2013 | 40,000 | 38,000
[1] Post ID: @OP+1tp7CKQK, Data-DateTime="2024-07-08T03:21:23Z"
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1tp7CKQK
I just heard from my Director that there are DEFINITELY layoffs happening soon. No details were given, but my Director is DEFINITELY in the know. They inform ALL Directors of these things MONTHS in advance. He also told me that he expects either Biden or Trump will win the election in November. I think he’s right about that, so I believe him about these layoffs. You’ve been WARNED.
@7riz+1tp7CKQK, thanks for sharing. Not a good way ”to be #1 in customers’ hearts”. Hope the sales reps are ”speaking up”, not just “leaking”.
T-Mobile, Governance
https://investor.t-mobile.com/governance/governance-documents/default.aspx
T-Mobile, “Speak Up Policy”
https://s29.q4cdn.com/310188824/files/doc_downloads/governance_docs/2020/04/01/Speak-Up-Policy.pdf
Great point @2dgl+1tp7CKQK. It makes sense to consider the vulnerabilities of Open RAN. Great to hear that the “Doc” is on top of things. T-Mobile has had some tough times in regards to data breaches. As per the latest 10-K, the August 2021 breach was settled for $350 million dollars. Some good articles below.
https://www.t-mobile.com/news/network/cyberattack-against-tmobile-and-our-customers
https://www.zdnet.com/article/21-year-old-tells-wsj-he-was-behind-massive-t-mobile-hack/
https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/t-mobile-says-hackers-accessed-user-data-but-wont-confirm-ssn-breach-of-100-million-customers/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/t-mobile-hacker-who-stole-data-on-50-million-customers-their-security-is-awful-11629985105
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-mentions-phonearena-article-in-memo-to-reps_id160399
"We've been hearing from T-Mobile reps that the commission they make on a new phone is so low ($5 to $10 according to posts) they need to turn a new phone sale into a bundle to make money."
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobille-reps-punished-selling-phones-without-accessories_id160383
"I was a 3 year customer. Never late on bill. I lost my iPhone in a river and needed a new one. 3 different T-Mobile stores told me they “only had one iPhone left” and “we can’t sell you one without a phone case, screen protector, charger, and 360 protection”.
How the he-l does T-Mobile get away with this? I don’t need any of that overpriced garbage. I left and went to a different carrier. I asked an employee wtf when I went to T-Mobile to pay off my lost phone and he explained “we get written up if we sell a phone without that stuff. It’s our corporate overlords”. Absolutely wild that I was told no when trying to buy a phone at a phone store." -Former T-Mobile customer
Post ID: @7seq+1tp7CKQK
Yes. That "Dr." John Saw who was a soothsayer in predicting the wide success of WiMax, a technology that was a one off, which didn't build on existing 2G/3G solutions and was pretty quickly overlaid with LTE. Grade: FAIL
Yes. That "Dr." John Saw who was so brilliant he bought LTE Advanced and 5G from Ericsson. All Ericsson ideas and implementation. It was so successful, Sprint got bought by T-Mobile due to his incompetence in deployment.
Interesting Phone Arena article. Maybe no raise for Mike Sievert.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobile-annual-general-meeting-may-bring-disappointment-for-CEO-Mike-Sievert_id159201
John Saw? Doctor John Saw of Clearwire and Sprint fame?
Clearwire CTO Dr. John Saw Discusses the Innovation Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbipwqOjU_0
John Saw, Sprint's Chief Technology Officer at the Ericsson booth in Barcelona!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hys10jC5PHk
Have pitty on Mike and the SLT. They’re trying to continue to keep their huge salaries by making shareholders happy in any way possible.
Remember that we have a date of July 18,2024 for a big announcement regarding the Field Technology teams path moving forward in the New T-Mobile.
It took them 6 weeks to lay off 5000 last year. Give them time... 20 in the first week is likely just the beginning. And remember that they don't post ALL layoffs as WARN Notices. Another post shows public documentation for only 700 of the 5000.
Where were the 500 layoffs today? Crickets.
We can only hope syncup devices get scrapped. Having to support those in tech care su-ks so bad.
@3cgb+1tp7CKQK *Had a Consumer IOT team.
Does that mean they're cancelling the entire Sync Up product line? Surely the Directors and VPs in charge of Consumer IOT were also let go with this cut...
John saw also led 2 technical failures in Sprint and Clearwire. I consider him a Nostradumbass.
We have a Consumer IOT team?
Can confirm around 20 were let go from Consumer IoT.
I've heard that T-Mobile uses the 60 day loophole for layoffs. Impacted employees receive pay and benefits for 60 days following their notice which is the penalty for not adhering to the WARN Act. It's legal.
29 U.S. Code § 2104 - Remedies
(a) Civil actions against employers
Any employer who orders a plant closing or mass layoff in violation of section 2102 of this title shall be liable to each aggrieved employee who suffers an employment loss as a result of such closing or layoff for—
(A) back pay for each day of violation at a rate of compensation not less than the higher of—
(i) the average regular rate received by such employee during the last 3 years of the employee's employment; or
(ii) the final regular rate received by such employee; and
(B) benefits under an employee benefit plan described in section 1002(3) of this title, including the cost of medical expenses incurred during the employment loss which would have been covered under an employee benefit plan if the employment loss had not occurred.
The back pay and benefits are required to be paid for each day the employer failed to provide the required notice, up to a maximum of 60 days.
Posting ChatGPT responses full of endless links does not convince us you are smart, nor is it helpful.
John Saw has already said he doesn’t like Open Ran because of it’s vulnerabilities. Pay attention when grown folks talk and you will learn something.
Just a quick peek at the competition. Some good reads regarding Open RAN.
(1) Soni, Robert. (2024, February 12). The Next Step in Bringing Our Open RAN Vision to Life. AT&T. https://about.att.com/blogs/2024/open-ran.html
(2) Schulz, Karen. (2024, February 5). Verizon advances O-RAN technology by deploying 130,000 new O-RAN capable radios in its network. Verizon. https://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-advances-o-ran-technology
(3) Jones, Dan. (2024, February 5). Verizon taps Samsung, Ericsson for O-RAN kit. Fierce Network. https://www.fierce-network.com/5g/verizon-has-deployed-thousands-samsung-o-ran-compliant-radios-and-working-ericsson-o-ran
(4) Morris, Iain. (2023, December 12). Nokia CEO speaks out on AT&T's 'one vendor' move to Ericsson. https://www.lightreading.com/5g/nokia-ceo-speaks-out-on-at-t-s-one-vendor-move-to-ericsson
(5) Anonymous. (2023, December 6). Thread regarding Nokia Corp. layoffs: This will result in layoffs. TheLayoff. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1pWt1mn5
(6) Anonymous. (2023, November 17). Thread regarding AT&T layoffs: Big Changes for RAN. TheLayoff. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1pD3ow0E
Post ID: @1viu+1tp7CKQK
I withdraw my post. Found a site https://www.warntracker.com/?ref=warntracker.substack.com&year=2023&company=t-mobile which documents T-Mobile WARN Notices in 2023 in 6 states totaling 700. Still FAR SHORT of 5000
T-Mobile, Tennessee, WARN notice of 127 on 2023-10-19
T-Mobile, Maryland, WARN Notice of 40 on 2023-09-20
T-Mobile, Illinois, WARN Notice of 82 on 2023-09-20
T Mobile Maine WARN Notice of 0 on 2023-09-07
T-Mobile, Washington WARN Notice of 401 on 2023-08-31
T-Mobile, New Jersey, WARN Notice of 50 on 2023-08-29
Always count on God. He's done miracles on me.
We have one vote for “Field Operations”, @akn+1tp7CKQK , and the ”90th” vote for ”IT Restructuring”, @1edx+1tp7CKQK . In my opinion, both could be right. I have not seen any mentions about Open RAN (O-RAN). Open RAN, and the “Virtualization” of the tower, will certainly change the nature of “Field and IT Operations”, with the need for IT/RF Engineering/AI Automation gurus playing a larger role in the functioning of the tower, in my opinion. Existing “top” tower crews could provide the “smart hands” support to replace equipment at the “bottom”. Completely outsourcing the entire tower operations is another option.
”T-Mobile US Open to Open RAN”
https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/interview/t-mobile-us-open-to-open-ran/2023/03/
”T-Mobile 'highly values' partnerships with both Nokia, Ericsson: CEO”
https://www.fierce-network.com/5g/t-mobile-values-partnerships-both-nokia-ericsson
”Nokia and Deutsche Telekom begin deployment of multi-vendor Open RAN network in Germany”
https://www.nokia.com/about-us/news/releases/2023/12/12/nokia-and-deutsche-telekom-begin-deployment-of-multi-vendor-open-ran-network-in-germany/
“Amdocs Open RAN Automation”
https://www.amdocs.com/products-services/open-ran-automation
just waiting for it, happy to be part of it.
@1dww+1tp7CKQK "When they laid off 5000 last year, WARN notices were only seen in Washington, reporting 401 employees. WARN is a zero indicator (as T-Mobile pays you to stay home for 2 months in lieu of notice)."
100% false statement as I saw the WARN notice for my state (not Washington) and T-Mobile was listed there a couple of months prior to the layoffs.
We are all one sh---y day or phone call away from being laid off
Every single one of you that remain, that support those who support customers l, as Frier the Liar would say, is at a high risk of being laid off. That's a fact. The goal of the merger was to create a monopoly which would allow the remaining big three to collude on pricing. Mission accomplished. The next phase was eliminating as many support positions as possible to save costs. When you no longer have to compete on customer service, ethics, and loving your customers you can then transition to exactly what T-Mobile is going. Sc--wing over the customer and all customer support partners. The vast majority of you will be laid off at some point in the next two years. Fact. Over the next 5 years you will see retail trimmed down significantly. The difference is you support partners will get severance, retail will just get fired for non performance. The SLT team are unethical sociopaths who belong in jail for their lies. But instead they will take in millions.
Lol the downvotes, IoT laid off the whole tracker team.
Post ID: @1viu+1tp7CKQK
When they laid off 5000 last year, WARN notices were only seen in Washington, reporting 401 employees. WARN is a zero indicator (as T-Mobile pays you to stay home for 2 months in lieu of notice).
Checked the WARN notices for Washington, Texas, Missouri, and New Jersey, the 4 states where major corporate offices are no mention of layoffs which is good.
@akn+1tp7CKQK, thanks for sharing. AMDOCS mentions in the threads below.
2024-07-08T22:59:13Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1tp7CKQK#akn
2024-03-22T22:45:52Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1rFjbh57
2024-03-03T16:23:26Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1rmpgEhw
2023-09-11T00:36:28Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1oy8xkc0
2023-09-07T23:20:22Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ouK4VVG (Interesting Thread)
2023-09-02T14:38:33Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1opSBRro
2023-02-08T15:32:01Z | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1l5DDGwD
For the 90th time, IT gets restructured.
Meaning, this time , outsourced to some team in Bangalore or Singapore.
Layoff confirmed. IT is getting restructured. Its been a ride.
What org you in?
These layoffs will go on at least another 5 years, still have us cellular bloat to right size starting next year
Curses, foiled again!
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Fake news.
The cuts are across field operations. There’s an agreement with Amdocs in place to support a contracted field force.
In the thread below, it was suggested that there may be another 13K to 14K more to go. Seems like a lot. Sprint was running more “LEAN” prior to the merger, and took a big layoff hit post-merger close; see Sprint TheLayoff link below. Instead of “good luck”, I will offer the quote that is sometimes stated as…“there is no such thing as luck, but it is being prepared when the opportunity presents itself.” BE PREPARED!
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sdlvTni#cgwy
T-Mobile and Sprint Form 10-K/KT employee counts.
Year | T-Mobile | Sprint
2023 | 67,000
2022 | 71,000
2021 | 75,000
2020 | 75,000
2019 | 53,000 | 28,500
2018 | 52,000 | 30,000
2017 | 51,000 | 28,000
2016 | 50,000 | 30,000
2015 | 50,000 | 31,000
2014 | 45,000 | 36,000
2013 | 40,000 | 38,000
https://www.thelayoff.com/sprint-nextel
https://quotefancy.com/quote/815442/George-S-Patton-Jr-There-is-no-such-thing-as-luck-merely-opportunity-meeting-preparedness