We all know that further reductions and eliminations and movements of positions offshore and to vendors is going to continue until this company gets everyone it wants eventually out the door. Obviously they don't care if any of us stay or go, live or die but that is not my reason for this post. My question is what do we feel the chances of receiving severance anymore actually is. After over 20 years that is the only reason I have put up with the BS and cr-p of movements and department changes. I have zero desire and ambition to make this a career much longer or strive to stay as the company will be gone soon as we know it anyways. What I am looking for is some feedback and info regarding if there is a chance and if so what roles and areas are more likely to receive severance. Or are they just going to sc--w everyone and either force them to vendors, eliminate for cause with unrealistic and unattainable job expectations, or mentally break us to just give up and quit. We know how terrible and vile those running this company are but is there any window or hope to get a severance that many up us deserve for tolerating this nonsense for so long? Otherwise I am going to just go gung ho on finding other employment which will be difficult to start over and not desirable to companies being a woman in their mid 50's within 10 years or so of hopeful retirement.
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Being in the Life dept, this is my greatest fear that there will be a rug pull at the end. The leaders at all levels have been dangling the severance carrot for over 2 years since the sales were leaked & later announced. Thank you to all that have said what is going on in your sphere so I can prepare.
This terrible company has an army of corporate lawyers and legal experts. They have all their ducks in a row regarding this. As unethical and slimy as He-l as it may be this is completely legal.
I’m willing to bet Allsnake has done its homework and workers are just plain screwed.
@1hls A few of us contacted the Ohio Labor Board an we were told Allstate was within their rights to move us to a vendor and if we refused we were giving up a job voluntarily so we would not get unemployment as well let alone the severance they screwed us out of. So at least in Ohio they could move our positions and us to the vendor. And we did have a "choice". We were not required to go but it would be a voluntary resignation and the state of Ohio backed them .
Has anyone searched for the current severance policy? I could not find it anywhere.
Has anyone here ever heard of a Union? Maybe it’s time to organize and fight for workers rights, like severance.
If and when this happens to me, I will be calling the Bureau of Labor and Industries to file a complaint. Allstate doesn’t own the vendors. These are different companies and as far as I know, you can’t be forced to work for a company you didn’t apply for. If Allstate is terminating you because they are sourcing your work elsewhere to save money, they can’t force you to work for another company. They need to terminate you from your current job. Severance guidelines don’t say anything about “if we send you to another company you’re not eligible for severance”. If we are waiting out the severance game let’s wait them out and see what they do. If they try to pull some sh-t on us, which is likely, time to get some legal assistance and justice. The people that this has already happened to need to do the same.
@1H1 yes I was in asic. The upper management was pure evil. The whole time they pretended like they didn't know anything that was going on when they were the ones working behind the scenes coordinating everything. All we wanted was honesty. They could have just said day one that allstate will either transfer us or send to another department instead of exciting everyone with severence. Some people had worked there 20 years so they were sick when they didn't get 40 weeks of severence and had to go to another department
@icx....You must have worked for asic. Boy what a fake and disaster those leaders were. They knew dang well what was coming and lied to our faces for months....to appease their corporate overlords for their paychecks. The front line leaders there knew as well but lied to us also. Some admitted it after the fact. Obvious lies and deflections. They knew what was going to happen months before. But they did not have the decency to be honest and truthful. If that leadership group only knew the stress, illnesses, and mental anguish they caused just to keep in the good graces of Mother Allstate. Never trust and believe an Allstate leader. Liars and snakes all of them. And horrible fake disgusting beings as well.
Reality check here. It all depends on what area you are in. Some departments are moving lower band call center employees to vendors. Those employees do not get a severance package if they choose to not work for the vendor because they are being offered a job and are declining it. The more “corporate” jobs are still offering severance with reductions in force. Several areas have gone under the radar and did layoffs this year and those employees were offered severance packages.
Very low. I'll tell you a story. My department was being moved to a vendor and the department manager told us for 6 months that we would either get moved to the vendor or laud off. What they didn't expect was how many people wanted to get laid off with severence . Well we had a zoom call finally and they told us there would be no layoffs and at the last minute they were able to find a different allstate dept no one had ever heard of to move two thirds of us and one third went to the vendor. Everyone was upset because we all knew they would do anything to get around paying severence . They don't care about your future
Nobody except upper management will see severance. That was part of the deal Allstate agreed to when they allowed Concentrix to take over beginning on 1-1-24. Forget severance, try to get terminated before the end of 2023 so you can at least collect unemployment or stick it out, get re-badged to Concentrix, get let go within 2 months and get no severance OR unemployment!!!
I think you have your answer in your question. These turds found the easiest way to reduce costs. Majority of what we know as employees will be outsourced to a vendor. More and more departments every quarter are evaluated and moved. Once you move to a vendor they could care less. You loose all tenure as you’re no longer an Allstate employee. So I would not expect any kind of severance package. When this happens, you have two options. Go to the vendor and sever ties with Allstate or quit and sever ties with Allstate. This is how Allsnake got out of paying millions of dollars in severance.