Thread regarding DXC Technology layoffs

@168

"DXC" and "reality" exist in two separate dimensions...

Everything is fake and lies with DXC.

Surprised Wall Street haven't grasped that yet. They are a bunch of thickies.

@13h It's amazing how expectation and reality are two different things.

A bit like how DXC expects me to be in the office but in reality it is not mandatory.. strange coincidence that.

@13h Is this in addition to or instead of your 40hrs learning, and 25hrs community work commitments? I don't mind any of this. Just don't expect 40hrs a week of solid work on top.

@13h
"you are expected to GIVE an hour to and from work and is NOT part of your working day - they expect you to be at the office for 7.5 hrs plus up to and hr each way"

So true - This "new rule" means your new name is "Boxer" (from Animal Farm)

@12x nope you are expected to GIVE an hour to and from work and is NOT part of your working day - they expect you to be at the office for 7.5 hrs plus up to and hr each way

@12z Absolutely nothing would convince me to travel for this company. I am not personally subsidizing travel for DXC with spending restrictions and that includes RTO.

When DXC treats it staff like dirt, guess what, it works both ways.

My experience of claiming expenses was - you put them in. They got sat on for a month. After endless emails begging them to be approved, they finally get approved. Only to be rejected by finance who says the WBS code has expired, and you need to correct and resubmit.... repeat until someone gets bored of this game or it finally works. But anything to delay payment. It is of course entirely down to the project you're on and your manager. For us plebs. It really did feel like we weren't actually expected to turn up. I won't be returning to that life, and will be finding every excuse going why I can't travel. The squirrel who I now get more sense out of than my colleagues needs me for starters.

@12v Exactly how it will work going forward, but now official (should you wish to go in).

Paid travel to/from the office and the time taken to get to/from that office is part of your working day, after all it is a business trip the person is on. No need for any blind eyes, all official and above board for everyone including the plebs as you call them.

....oh I forgot to say.

No-one who worked for me knew about this (LOL).

The plebs under me had to get in on time, for early morning meetings as well as "working their hours" on a Friday like everyone else.

@12h

From memory, every manager always got travel expenses to work at Chorley - I know because I used to be one of them !
I would make sure any projects I worked on paid for it - With my manager turning a blind eye to the "travel " time on ETES as well as my inflated distance from office to home. After all, he/she was doing it too!

Being a senior manager, I "needed" that drive time to think of how to keep making employees work harder. 3 days of motorway driving a week, with a round trip mileage inflated by 40% and the allowance to get in late made for a nice little earner

As always some salesman selling a dream that cannot be fulfilled. But it sounded great in the pitch. I'm sure it achieved their aim of pushing a few people to just hand in their notice on the spot who think they qualify and didn't intend to comply. If the company wants to bring people together - one of the execs can tour the world, and should arrange transport, hotels and a nice lunch, and let people know they mean something. But do expect a chorus of I'll take mine as a cash bonus instead please, because this must be costing a fortune.

Bit too much fearmongering in this thread...

• RTO is not mandatory - you don't have to do it per UK announcement.
• Travel Expense are paid for RTO, therefore expense daily and you will quickly find out if they are not paid and hence the travel stops immediately.
• General consensus is there is not even enough space for those who would like to go in, but time will tell.
• Lack of adequate facilities (monitors, etc) are a justifiable reason alone to refuse on health&safety grounds.
• Many have no office anywhere near them, therefore they are automatically excluded.
• Any travel freeze automatically stops this (they did not think that one through) and when the cost of ~90 days/year of travel to/from the office for those who wish to go in is seen, well wait for it to end.

It's like a lot of things in DXC, an idea with lots of fanfare is thrown out, runs for a while and when reality sets in it quietly dies a death.

@xg Did you not get the memo - following on from bring your device initiatives; the company is rolling out bring your own desk, chair, monitor, keyboard and mouse. You won't want to eat or drink in the offices, or aren't expected to do much more than swipe in - so aren't expected to have need for a toilet. But can bring your own bottle.

As long as the company can say it's not true that nobody in DXC ever attends an office - this is all anyone on the outside world will be told. All attempts by us to blame service failures on the fact we had to be in an office - will of course be handled in Brocks usual way of ignoring it, and having people moved from team to team as some form of example.

There are not enough desks, the chairs are all broken and god help you if you use the toilets.

Oh and sit on teams meetings all day with people not in the same location as you.

@wt The people who do the work are IT geeks and that's what is required. We don't communicate well with people. Only machines understand us! We're all on the spectrum, that's what makes us brilliant at this type of work. We require special handling. Going into an office is really stressful. It ki-ls productivity. We're unique, DXC's diversity and why it's not just a bunch of clueless grads in suits who will flood the client with every technology buzz word going just to get it on their CV before moving on before it's finished is where we should focus our attention if we want to get clients back.

@td This has been a difficult exercise even for companies that traditionally had everyone in the same office, doing the same job, and hiring locally. For DXC, it might as well be “here’s a Starbucks voucher—go sit there and strike up a conversation with a stranger.” Our teams are scattered across the country—and in many cases, across the globe. Requiring people to go into an office is more of a distraction than a benefit. Years ago the prediction was we'd all be toiling from local and walkable work hubs. That has never happened.

Sure, there are real advantages to getting an entire team together—but it’s expensive, and DXC isn’t known for embracing cost. There could also be value in bringing people who work on the same technology together, regardless of client—but we’re so thinly spread, the logistics alone would wipe out a week’s productivity.

So yes, I agree—it feels like window dressing for one of our clients or whoever might acquire us. Frankly, it’s too little, too late. The return-to-office push was a 2023 move. DXC missed the boat already.

They want you to socialise, network and absorb stuff from having people around you.

It's not a terrible idea, it does work.

However what they are missing is the office space of the right size and in the right locations.

That ship sailed years ago now and they enjoyed the financial benefit from not having any of this.

If they truly want it back then it's more money and long term commitment than they'd ever be able to do.

This is just window dressing for a bad set of figures they are about to announce.

Maybe this is about forcing people into the sites they bill for.
Anyone else is fluff for removal.

There's a lot of people who crave the office. They don't like being stuck tucked in a cupboard hunched over a laptop, or having to work of the dining room table and pack it away every day. But those people mostly left already, and DXC's offering attracted people who were seeking to avoid all that from their previous employer. When you have a dedicated room and can't see the benefit it's going to be a really tough sell. What do we get out of it - nothing! Other than more hassle, more work, more stress, less time. The company maybe wants you take a stand and just leave, or it really can't see how to fix it's problems and is desperate to try anything. There's only 3 open location in the UK. Ones of those is in Scotland. What some disconnected manager in another country wants doesn't translate when they closed down pretty much everywhere as this was the future. Make up your mind and stick with it is probably a better approach.

@sa only onshore?

I asked the Indian guys I work with and they've been told the same.

Only difference is is that they are mainly pleased about going back to the office.

wise up - RTO only affects onshore resources.

You'll find every single manager will stay at home (the non-doers).

DXC is being prepp'd for a selloff

@mm I wouldn't trust them on this. Make sure you get approval in advance, and make sure one set of expenses are paid before you spend any more of your own money. You will be £100's out of pocket when the rules change or the company goes bust, and it was all just hear-say. They don't trust us to be working from home after all. That's why they want everyone back. So least they feel they get something for their money.

@mm As usual it's subject to your manager. It was a weekly fight to do something that they wanted, but then put every blocker in it's way to try and stop it happening or the money ever being paid. Typical DXC trying to undermine itself. We lost the contract. Other suppliers could deliver staff without the fuss. That's all they wanted.

@h0 approval is not required for under $250 and I never had any issue getting expenses paid. That said I will not be going into the office so a mute point.

@gp Good luck trying to get a PTA approved prior to travel, and your expenses repaid afterwards. It was a nightmare 7 years ago. Nothings changed since. Probably except less staff to run the process and click the approval buttons than ever. Pay me up front of you want me there.

@bn Why would you be driving in causing depreciation on your private car as a virtual worker! Going to the office (while not mandatory per DA in UK) is a business trip, is a valid expense which the company pays for. So you take a taxi to/from and the time taken to/from counts as part of your workday.

Trust me, going to the office is a dead duck before it even starts.

Will your badge even work at an office? I like the suggestion for everyone to show up at an office at the same time. Take a picture of the crowd and conditions, then share it on the internal portal of how it's such a good mandate. That may get some attention.

Come to the office, badge in and drive back home three times per week.

Book the company jet and a limo to get you to the office.

That's how Raul does it.

Panic sheep management. Everyone else did an RTO we need to do one as well. Getting people together might work. But it costs a lot of money to get the whole team in the same place at the same time. I used to fight the travel and expense policy to get to go to the cheapest dive hotel within a 25 mile radius of a site just because. That bubble burst in 2020. If the company wants to get us somewhere. Send a car, book a nice hotel, promise and deliver on a lunch or dinner. It won't!!! The staff who need the money left already. The rest of us just don't need the hassle thank you.

They haven't a clue, it's just some knee je-k edict from the CEO. There's aren't enough desks, there's no kit in the offices and they are all in the wrong place (in the UK) so the number of people who can get to them is limited.

Like so much else in DXC from our great leadership it's bollocks, but hey as long as their pyramid scheme runs for another quarter what do they care?

Can everyone please go to Farnborough on Monday 21st. Take a tent, and supplies. You won't be able to get in, and should expect to queue for some time before a desk slot becomes available for you to work the 2 days required. Or they may just have to admit turning up and standing in reception was all you're expected to do to qualify. As soon as they realise that no work is being done, and nobody is supporting the client because they are too busy trying to comply with this or any other directive then normal service will be resumed. Don't resist it - just show them and the clients how totally stupid these management plans are, and the sooner they will be rescinded.

Please travel to the office where you can complete your timesheet and do you mandatory security training.

Nobody really knows what the heck they mean.

I'm sure it's actually a complete propaganda exercise and that will be confirmed when you hear Raul talk about it on the q1 results call. If he calls it out then it's definitely propaganda.

It's certainly not a functioning achievable directive.

Please return to the nearest office, starting next Monday. You will be doing the same work what you would be doing when you are working from home aka "doing nothing".

So maintain the same. These are exciting times and we are making this decision to ensure the local businesses get some foot traffic and some sales.

This will also help the execs travel a little more to meet you folks in the office.