Thread regarding Ford layoffs

This place destroyed something good

I remember when everyone actually loved working here. Leadership talked to us openly, team events were fun, people smiled and laughed. Now look at it. Layoffs all the time and it seems like the more people like you, the more likely you are to get cut. They've lied to us over and over again. All that's left now is worry and stress. I'm so tired of this.


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Post ID: @OP+1kthgypr0

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Long gone.......

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Post ID: @mf+1kthgypr0

@dw I hired into the oval in the late 80s. It was sure different then. You had good bosses and some bad ones. But even the bad ones were technical and would not dispute common sense or physics when the data was presented. Fast forward to 1994 the roll out of Ford 2000. That was when the company shifted from customer focus to stupid decisions like buying LR and Volvo. Jaguar was already purchased in 1990 against the wishes of Don Peterson. The family overruled his recommendation. One month after the purchased he retired. But the combination of poor senior management after f2000 really set the company on a spiral.
The company no longer has a solid management bench. Instead FoF or DEI really watered down the bench. the confident ones left. I knew quite a few women and minorities who were more than qualified but questioned certain direction only to be labeled.
QI back then meant something .. It was not a punchline but taken serious. Now TVM has destroyed our quality. but today two very clean examples of lack of accountability the F150 Lightning volume increase capacity and the Mustang. bothe CNEs were not held to the same standards past CNE had to endor . Instead they were promoted. Again no accountability.. They were in charge. they made decisions that cost the company billions.
Then you have senior management. I will not call them leaders since they never presented a confident vision or plan. BOD run by BF! A man who was fired by his own family in 2006. Which led to the hiring of Alan.
Well I retired a few years back. Pretty much Fired Farley because I have ZERO confidence in his vision or leadership which he lacks.

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Post ID: @m0+1kthgypr0

@dw

That’s sums it up well and Ford had a big issue with pushing DEI. Majority of promotions to LL6 and LL5 were vastly people who didn’t meet the job requirements. Saw this over and over in my old organization. Many good engineers left the company because no opportunity. None!!! 2019 and later targeted pensioners with a few younger white guys sprinkled in. ICE powertrain and vehicle engineering was gutted for the future, Farley’s folly - the BEV. Amazing you can be in charge of your most important initiative and lose Billions and keep your job. Ford will continue to lose market share with this clown in charge.

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Post ID: @j9+1kthgypr0

@OP
I'll be honest, my POS LL6 destroyed that for the entire team !

No one even talks anymore.

Amazingly, he speaks with such confidence we just let him ramble on as the id--t he is.

Is it POS LL6 or LL6 POS that sounds better?

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Post ID: @g0+1kthgypr0

@eh The best time to look for a job is when you still have one. Never failed me yet!

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Post ID: @f5+1kthgypr0

@dc

If you've got good runway and kept a warm network outside of Ford there's precious little they can do to you accept make your life difficult if you stay. Being able to leave when the position no longer aligns is what counts. Having that option takes most of the leverage away in most cases. If you don't have that kind of optionality working on getting it should be at the top of your list.

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Post ID: @eh+1kthgypr0

@dw this is spot on, you get it

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Post ID: @dx+1kthgypr0

@OP. You should check your memory with a doctor. Ford was never "good", and the only leadership that was honest with us was AM.

The main reason people was ok working at Ford, even when there were psychos posing as managers, too many FnF, a lot of silos, and TVM was already ravaging the suppliers since 2002, was that meritocracy mattered (most of the time) for layoffs. Ford became a low trust, high paranoia place after the 2019 layoffs (SRD).

Until then, what mattered were the employee's contributions to the company. Sure, there were a lot of nepotism and cronyism, but for the people that actually produced in the company, as long as they contribute enough, they were safe. The 2019 SRD shattered that, when it targeted the older employees with pensions, no matter how important was the position to the company.

Since then, it has become worse. Nobody knows what they should know to survive the layoffs or PIPs. This caused a lot of stress and uncertainty in the workforce. So now we have more silos, lower trust, while the best employees left for better companies. The ones still here at the company are trying to guess when, and from what direction, will come the next layoff. So many employees are looking for jobs in other companies, or in a "safer" department at Ford. No time for doing their job correctly. In fact, the better an employee is at their job, the more chances they will get laid off (insecure managers, jealousy from coworkers, envy from FnFs).

Moreover, no matter how wrong was a higher up, or how much was wasted in the higher up delusion, nothing ever happened to them, but more employees, sometimes not even from the same area, are laid off to "cut costs". So the whole workforce is too distracted or too threatened to do their jobs. People are disheartened at Ford, because they lost their motivation to be a good employee. So what is left? Anger, fear, distrust, lies... which makes a workplace like h3ll.

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Post ID: @dw+1kthgypr0

@dq corruption breeds loosers

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Post ID: @dr+1kthgypr0

How can one smile when they are about to be fired, take no joy in work or life anymore, this place has become toxic - - - - -

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Post ID: @dc+1kthgypr0

@d9 🤣🤣🤣

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Post ID: @da+1kthgypr0

Come on smile, - - -

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Post ID: @d9+1kthgypr0

@bn

Seems like we have people whose sole job it is to make sure Jiras are up to date. These are the people who have to constantly worry about their jobs being cut. We can get software to do that. Why are we paying them again?

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Post ID: @bs+1kthgypr0

And make sure your Jira tickets are up to date!

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Post ID: @bn+1kthgypr0

It sure did, obliterated any hope I had in people. Fragile trust shattered after 20 years here....

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Post ID: @bj+1kthgypr0

I remember when Quality is Job 1 was a thing. We had some issues, but for the most part you could trust that you had a fairly reliable vehicle. For the last 10 years, Ford has not produced anything but junk. Definitely not a car I'd put my kids or elderly parents in.

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Post ID: @ap+1kthgypr0

C'mon There is plenty to laugh about. Ford quality is the biggest joke, unless you are a Ford vehicle owner. Wait. I can laugh! I don't own a Ford!🤣🤣🤣 And HR and the BOD still refuse to fire directors and executives. FOOLS!

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Post ID: @am+1kthgypr0

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