Thread regarding Refinitiv layoffs

How to survive PIP?

I was put on PIP and it was a big surprise for me because I worked more than ever. So I guess there is no reliable way to survive PIP? For private reasons, the worst thing that could happen to me at the moment would be to lose my job. I would love to stay, but more and more it seems to me that performance doesn’t matter one bit in this company.

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@hmfs+1eQDUt4g It was a mistake on my part posting twice, not meant to emphasise anything by posting twice at all. It’s good to hear I should not listen to the gossip and I’ll make a point to contact the union this weekend. They sound impressive! Thank you. Hope all is ok with your wife.

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Post ID: @iadk+1eQDUt4g

That's interesting, because 95% don't even know there's an union in Poland operating since 2011. They even had their union message boards taken away from them from every of 9 office floors. I have asked them just beginning of this week about my wife's difficult situation and got all the relevant current Polish law regulations and 2 lawyers contacts back in less than 20min. It was a life saver, especially that I'm not a Polish citizen and not even their union's member neither. They are wonderful and brave folks, all working hard like everyone else, don't trust the false gossip, go and see for yourself.
When it comes to PIP, Polish HR process says: "BEFORE THE PIP - Communicate the problem with an Employee during informal meetings". "informal meetings" part in bold font, so basically - write everything down with evidence or get screwed later.
If you can post on this forum, you can surely google info too, when there's a will there's a way. My Mom is over 70 and she rules on FB. I don't think she knows it's called "social media" though...
In case it is, what I think it is, my piece of advice to you: posting the same message not 2 but 3 times in a row will make a lot more people believe its true ;)

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Post ID: @hmfs+1eQDUt4g

@hnmi+1eQDUt4g my colleague in office at Gdynia. She said the agent has a poor reputation in the office so decided to left it alone. I will contact a lawyer I think.

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@hnmi+1eQDUt4g my colleague in office at Gdynia. She said the agent has a poor reputation in the office so decided to left it alone. I will contact a lawyer I think.

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Post ID: @hiho+1eQDUt4g

@ghki+1eQDUt4g Whom did you ask and who gave you such information?

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Post ID: @hnmi+1eQDUt4g

@fien+1eQDUt4g Thank you so much, i had asked about the union and got informed the union agent was no longer available. I am not on social media (sorry my age)

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Post ID: @ghki+1eQDUt4g

I knew it... search "refinitiv workers union" on facebook and linked in, get in touch

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Post ID: @fien+1eQDUt4g

I’m at Poland in Krakow

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Post ID: @fhqf+1eQDUt4g

what country are you from?

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Post ID: @8jqi+1eQDUt4g

About beating in Labour court how does that work, i would like some help to go to court.

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Post ID: @7yux+1eQDUt4g

PIP can be beaten in Labour Court. Take good notes of everything that you do vs your objectives and tasks, i.e. meeting minutes, workday records, emails, etc., then record it all outside of your work laptop. Lost court cases was one of main reasons other big companies put forced ranking system and 50% "how" to trash loooong time ago.
Even HR PIP processes state clearly every PIP must be justified with some solid historical evidence of your underperformance, but no one seems to really care about it....

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Post ID: @1lig+1eQDUt4g

What a great point. Being on a PIP always puts you first in line if a RIF comes along. Your boss is looking for the very first exit ramp for your career here.

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Post ID: @1xge+1eQDUt4g

Back before the Blackrock sale, I was put on a PIP by a new boss who was directed to do so by a C level person who didn't like me. I was doing a fine job, had just finished a year where I broke my bu-t on some M&A work for the team. My old boss moved on - I tried to get his job but it was given to the C person's lap dog instead (who hadn't finished a single project as long as I knew him). He started breaking my b---s on every little thing, which was salt in the wound after being denied the promo. I confronted him on it, so he called HR and put me on a PIP.

Everything seemed to blow over, and come the end of the year, I was RIFd along with one of my team mates who hadn't been on a PIP. So I guess I survived the PIP. I don't know. But if you are on one: yes it means they don't like you.

I did hear that the C level clown moved on, and without any cover, the lapdog dodn't last long. Literally none of his peers, subs, or stakeholders could stand the putz. I've taken pleasure in warning my network off his advances on Linkedin.

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Post ID: @1ked+1eQDUt4g

You need to start looking for a new job today. A PIP is a certain sign of how your manager feels about you. They are telling you that you are not a valued member of their team. You should believe them.

Once an employee has the stain of a PIP on their record, that stain never goes away, even if they somehow survive the PIP.

If you stay, low raises and minimum bonuses are your future if you somehow survive.

Your boss is begging you to leave in the clearest message possible for them. Please take this opportunity to start looking. There is no harm in looking. Waiting to get fired is going to be tough to explain away in a new job interview.

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