Has anyone else been put on one recently? I can’t lie, I have been shuffled around different positions with no training for 2 years.
Tried in every position but it seems to be the end for me
BH office
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You deserve it 🤌
@12n We heard that someone is working to get a class action lawsuit , how can so many of the employees are being put into PIP now?
@12e Basically
@py Is what said legal for any employer to do ? i.e. when they want to downsize, put a lot of folks on PIP to get rid off them with a cause?
@v7 The only possible downgrade for Corporate America is dealing with the id--tic seat-warmer communist mentality sh-t. 99% of why you find managers hiring Indians over Americans is to not deal with mental re--rdation like this.
Keep telling yourself a story while you down vote also, and GFY
Whoever is the author of this post, meaning the person on the stupid "pip" cr-p....all I would suggest is...don't let these b a s t a r d s get you down. And F anyone on this thread saying you somehow deserved this. You were good enough to get this job, you are a capable person, just ride out the "pip" nonsense, while looking for something outside of Fiserv. You may be ok and survive this just fine. And then the only damage will be how Fiserv insulted and demeaned you. F EM. Really, This is soulness, dirt-bag Corporate America, populated with self-important, usually clueless, clowns in suits.
When you are on PIP, document everything you doing and things you delivered. And follow-up with your manager weekly. but make sure you document everything, pull your performances from last however many year in pdf and save them. Once the meeting is done with the manager, just summarize everything that you talked about in an email as well. many people does get out of PIP and doesn't have worry about it. on the safer side, start looking elsewhere as well.
@s1 thanks for the honest feedback. Honestly this is the first job I need to go look for projects because my manager hasn’t given me any
In a team of 10, managers pick the two lowest performers using current performance, initiative, growth/potential, and past supervisor feedback.
If layoffs loom, the bottom two go first. If no layoffs, they go on PIP.
Tech companies do this often. Unfortunate but standard.
Advice: Document every task and deliverable meticulously. Perform at your best, seek regular feedback, stay positive, put in the hours, and stay fully engaged. Many recover from PIP successfully—it’s in your control.
Don’t resent your manager. The documentation burden is usually too high to justify PIP lightly. If it happens, they likely had no real choice.
They put you on a PIP so they can fire you for cause. That means no severance and no unemployment. You need to be looking for something else.
@mx again I’m trying to see if it’s an isolated me issue or it’s more spread out. Regardless I’m looking somewhere else because it’s not pragmatic they way things r run at this place.
@k8 I am in FIG
@h6 This is a problem. But not the way this board is taking it
If the budget needs a downsize, manager doesnt need a PIP to let you go and does so without cause.
Who remembers needing constant trainings after college on every task? Why do a pip after being moved around frequently in 2 years? OP comes off like the common gen z trouble case. No possible explanation they contributed, always someone else's fault when there's an issue, trying is same as results, etcetc. increasingly common
@ja That is a great story. But we can only hear one side.
When BH first open we were told that they would hire "gas station attendants" to reach their tax credit quota. "Used to" would mean from when they opened up until they started putting people on PIP plans for seemingly no reason.
This whole situation is being pushed by HR, and the level of incompetence coming out of FIG HR has been unbelievable. Managers often end up stuck following directives but the HR involvement is what makes bd things worse.
I’m curious whether the OP is in FIG, because I’m trying to understand how far this wave of PIPs is spreading. Is this mainly an issue with FIG’s HR team, or is it happening more broadly across the organization?
@j0 not to be biased but I don’t think it’s me per say. In the first position, there was not enough work for everyone so they laid off a bunch of people. My manager before said it’s better to move you then not have much work to do.
In the second position, after a 2 months they realized that they needed help somewhere else.
In this third position, they want me to be SME with no prior experience in this position.
I have never had this happen in my previous jobs, I was always top performer
@hj I hate to say so.... If they moved you around so many times and then put you on a PIP, the manager just can't keep the musical chairs going to make people on each project stop complaining.
It is worth looking elsewhere and also thinking about why you are being moved so frequently. Would the same happen somewhere else? Only you can know it.
@h6 BH has only existed for 3 to 4 years. What is meant by "used to"?
@gq so I started in one position, learned what needed to be done then got pulled away because lack of work in that area. Sent to another position for a couple of months completely different to what I was doing before. Then they said they would rather put me in another position the needed people. Put under more shadowing but just recently got a project.
I feel like I keep being moved to complete different positions and having to start all over again with no proper training and then not given any work or the right tools to practice the shadowing.
Most likely just going to look elsewhere as I don’t think I can succeed in a place that keeps rotating me
@gv thanks for the advice
@ga grade 10
Interesting.
They used to hire anyone with a pulse to work in BH. They either have enough employees for the tax credits that they can now take action to remove employees. Or they have given up on the possibilities on reaching the tax credit quota.
Either increases the likelihood of layoffs at that location.
A well structured PIP, with well defined and non ambitious, non malicious or impossible goals to achieve is way to help you and your manager to grow as professionals. I was once in PIP in other company and while trying to find jobs was an option i figured it wouldnt help me concentrate and do my job. So I learned to be at peace, I earned to manage better my time, to be accountable for everything, and to defend my position professionally speaking. It helped me a lot. I ended up passing the PIP period and internally moving to another team far from that manager. I hope you can learn too
I can see why you may be PIP from this story...If you're here for 2 years why do you need training? You didn't figure out what you had to learn or who to ask by now? Nobody has time at Fiserv for that mindset. Pip means 6 to 8 months.
What level are you in?
A PIP leads to firing you.
@b9 i figured as much. Definitely going to go hard at applying now . Thanks
You should consider the PIP as your notice period. Ive never heard of anyone successfully completing an improvement plan; its hr covering their a-s before firing you.