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India's IT sector nervous as US proposes outsourcing tax

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/indias-sector-nervous-us-proposes-064803045.html

BENGALURU (Reuters) -India's massive IT sector faces a lengthy period of uncertainty with customers delaying or re-negotiating contracts while the U.S. debates a proposed 25% tax on American firms using foreign outsourcing services, analysts and lawyers said.

The sector is likely to be on the receiving end of a bill which, though unlikely to pass in its nascent form, will initiate a gradual shift in how big-name firms in the world's largest outsourcing market buy IT services, they said.

Still, with U.S. firms having to pay the tax, those heavily reliant on overseas IT services are likely to push back, setting the stage for extensive lobbying and legal battles, analysts and lawyers said.

India's $283 billion information technology sector has thrived for more than three decades exporting software services, with prominent clients including Apple, American Express, Cisco, Citigroup, FedEx and Home Depot. It has grown to make up over 7% of GDP.

However, it has also drawn criticism in customer countries over job loss to lower-cost workers in India.

Last week, U.S. Republican Senator Bernie Moreno introduced the HIRE Act which proposes taxing companies that hire foreign workers over Americans, with the tax revenue used for U.S. workforce development. The bill also seeks to bar firms from claiming outsourcing payments as tax-deductible expenses.

The bill could not have come at a worse time for India's IT sector, which is struggling with weak revenue growth in its mainstay U.S. market as clients defer non-essential tech spending amid inflationary pressure and tariff uncertainty.

"The HIRE Act proposes sweeping changes that could alter the economics of outsourcing and significantly increase the tax liability associated with international service contracts," EY India's compliance head Jignesh Thakkar said.

In some cases, combined federal, state and local taxes could push the levy on outsourced payments as high as 60%, Thakkar said.

"While its partisan proposal may seem initially attractive, it's ultimately an artificial cost which makes organisations less competitive and profitable globally," said Arun Prabhu, partner at Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas.

Even so, the idea is gaining traction. This month, White House trade adviser Peter Navarro reposted a call from far-right activist Jack Posobiec for tariffs on services, not just goods.

"When political noise turns into regulatory risk, clients quickly insert contingencies, reopen pricing and demand delivery flexibility," said HFS Research President Saurabh Gupta.

"Clients will simply take longer to sign, longer to renew, and longer to commit transformation dollars," Gupta said.

Industry body Nasscom and IT firms Tata Consultancy Services, Infosys, HCLTech, Tech Mahindra, Wipro and LTIMindtree did not respond to requests for comment on implications of the bill.

BACKLASH BECKONS

Companies are likely to lobby hard against the proposed bill and challenge it legally if passed, legal experts and industry watchers said.

"A bill like this would probably face a lot of backlash from U.S. companies that rely heavily on outsourcing, who would likely bring litigation to challenge various aspects of the bill, if it were ever to be passed into law," said Alcorn Immigration Law CEO Sophie Alcorn.

Sweeping restrictions are unlikely given the practical hurdles in enforcing the bill's provisions, experts said.

"More likely is a diluted version, with narrower provisions or delayed enforcement," said HFS Research CEO Phil Fersht.

The bill could also affect U.S. firms' global capability centres (GCCs), which have evolved from low-cost offshore back offices to high-value innovation hubs that support operations, finance, research and development.

"It will be hard to pull back from existing work, but new set-ups and expansion may get impacted," said Everest Group partner Yugal Joshi.

The proposed tax will impact the cost arbitrage advantage that is among the deciding factors when establishing a GCC, said Bharath Reddy, a partner at CAM.

"However, the lack of availability of appropriate human capital in the U.S. will continue as a problem, and which can be addressed in the near future only through outsourcing," he said.


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@14q

| Indians are like resources that you can utilize to your benefit

so are american workers. in america, us citizens come first, h1bs second.
if we were in your country, you'd have it no different.

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Post ID: @1hp+1k4vxfpbk

Indians are like resources that you can utilize to your benefit

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Post ID: @14q+1k4vxfpbk

This is nonsensical interference in the market that government should play no part of. I am sure most of you want to watch your 401k/IRA grow whilst decrying businesses trying to increase profitability and margin that create that growth. What I do agree with is a level playing field.
Be careful what you wish for.

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Post ID: @vz+1k4vxfpbk

I'll believe it when I see it So far all promises, 0 action made by clowns that destroyed this country.

~ Naturalized Citizen

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Post ID: @m0+1k4vxfpbk

Get rid of all indian H1Bs and stop outsourcing

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Post ID: @h9+1k4vxfpbk

@g1 you are soo indian. That language. Those words. Just trying to stir up something

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Post ID: @gj+1k4vxfpbk

Once again, cowardly Indian mods are deleting posts that are critical of Indians who come are abusing H1B programs and spreading corruption via caste systems and nepotism among US companies.

If they had any sense of a spine, a backbone, or integrity they'd leave these posts intact and have a real conversation. But they won't. They just delete posts. They will kindly do the needful and ignore, while they plot to promote their own people and disenfranchise more talented US workers. They refuse to integrate into America. They want to stay in their own Indian neighborhoods, speaking Indian dialects, only engaging with Indians.

And for those Indians who say that US workers are lazy, or not as smart as Indians? May I remind you who created Cisco, Oracle, HP, IBM, Meta, and other companies you now have a majority presence within? It was AMERICANS. You wouldn't have any H1B jobs if it wasn't for AMERICA.

It's time for AMERICAN JOBS to return. Since you have no interest in integrating within America, you exist in our country to abuse our resources and enrich corruption in our US companies why don't you go home to India and start your own successful tech firms? Kindly do the needful.

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Post ID: @g1+1k4vxfpbk

I hope something like this passes. American workers have been completely shafted by globalizatio and companies like Cisco. American workers are competing with every low cost country.

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Post ID: @ay+1k4vxfpbk

caste kingdom building in the us is waste of time.
where is india's tech sector? why can't they build their own empires at home instead of doing cheap labor for us empires?

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Post ID: @at+1k4vxfpbk

The penalty percentage should be higher. Pay rates for foreign workers can be 1/2 to 1/3rd of US workers.

The 25% penalty could be absorbed by laying off more US workers. If the penalty is 100% or higher, now it starts to get companies to consider hiring US ppl again.

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Post ID: @an+1k4vxfpbk

India is again outmaneuvered by China

China was smart to selectively shut out US tech. Chinese companies are on their way to global dominance, and it is all sovereign Chinese. Chinese workers don't toil for IBM or Cisco or Google, they toil for BYD and Hauwei.

Meanwhile India is just repeating the colonial era, replacing the British with US tech. This is the caste system at work. Antiquated hierarchical systems like the caste system get a new lease on life with the need for instant organizational order.

In 1990 people wondered who would "win" - Inidia or China. No one wonders that today.

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