Are they tracking our badge outs too? I want to badge in and go home and relax
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They most definitely track it. They can see each location how many people are there who has badged in along with a few other statistics I have actually seen the report.
@c4 why are you taddling on other people? BTW, did you know the credit approvers have gotten a space on the second floor? I never see most of them anymore but see them walking to their cars at the end of the day.
“I know of someone who logs in via their cell, drives to work, swipes in, drives home, works 6 more hours and disconnects.”
I know of someone who logs in via their cell, drives to work, swipes in, drives home, works 6 more hours and disconnects.
They do a sh-t job of recording badge-ins. My monthly report is always missing several days I badged. Complained to HR and they sent me word salad email telling me they will not investigate the missing days and to communicate with my manager…..
@f5 In the past few years, I've applied for some internal opportunities and made it through several rounds of interviews only to be told that I need to be able to "hit the ground running" and that I essentially need to know how to do the job on my own from day one because they're behind and need to catch up. I miss the days when an applicable skill set was sufficient and training was provided to teach the rest. Nobody can properly develop skills by being thrown in the deep end and wished the best of luck, and we shouldn't be expected to swoop in and save an existing, long-established team from themselves. They just keep setting us up to fail and there's nowhere to go without taking a pay cut.
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@fd I have told people that I'm going to take a light day though, most people have after a stressful marathon in service to an artificial deadline. That's relaxing. I think the difference in definition comes from the idea that relaxing is something you're doing, or not, rather than a spectrum of intensity, just like stress.
This is a troll posting people. More likely someone from C-Suite or an HR bootlick getting the "lay of the land" as it were for some twisted purpose.
im not aware of anyone tracking swip-outs. I was actually told by my manager that they only record swipes-ins and they personally swipe-in and then leave immediately on occasion to go back home and work.
Lol there's plenty of people who relax at work. Have not heard of YouTube and twitch? People just f around on there and are paid.
@f9 agreed. Perhaps a difference in definitions but still stand by the statement that you’ve never told someone you were going to go relax and then went to work
@cy It sounds like there's a disagreement only in the definition of "relaxing", then, not a fundamental disagreement about whether working remotely is generally better when you measure employee stress and productivity.
I'll be perfectly straightforward with you though, I wouldn't go around "quoting AI" if I were you. It's highly susceptible to leading questions, and will agree with you as often as it can, even if the facts and definitions don't back it up. AI is not a reliable source, and citing it as a source doesn't bolster your argument, because people know it's not a reliable source. Before you start asking it to cite its sources, please remember that it will create fake links that go nowhere as sources for "facts" that aren't true. Everything only looks legit, but it is not, in fact, legit.
From an occupational health perspective, you can experience varying levels of stress at work. Work does not need to be maximally stressful for it to qualify as work. More productivity takes place at lower levels of stress at work. You may not be going to work like it's a spa day, but you don't need to torture yourself at work, you can relax at work.
@ey More like Phase 2.5. It's already happening. Since RM&C/CC is hemorrhaging top talent (which regulators have noticed btw), there are opportunities for rightful in-line promotions, but if the person is remote, they're posting the job req instead and forcing them to apply for the role in a hub location. But that's only if they didn't choose to swipe the role and fill it with another Nepotism Hire. However, they're running out of people who actually do the work and who are actually qualified compliance experts (which the regulators have also noticed).
Rumor has it, some internal employees aren't taking the bait - they're not applying and they're not working over 40 hrs because they've been shafted too many times on merit increase/bonuses after doing the work of 2 or 3 jobs, leaving leadership to scramble and critical work to backlog. It's entertaining to watch, but disheartening to see former best in class compliance programs crumble with the rest of the Bank.
@dp Phase 3, tell remote employees that are still full time remote, nowhere near a hub that they won't get promotions, and they can't apply for new jobs. All new jobs will be hired in hubs.
You guys are overthinking this.
Phase 1: The RTO is to get people to quit so they don't have to pay severance.
Phase 2: The message has been sent down the chain to start identifying resources for layoffs.
You can come into the office all day long and 5 days a week but it isn't going to matter one bit. If your manager has selected you it's over.
I can add to this - every Thursday I work from the park. That's relaxing and productive.
@ca I can work from my couch from home, listening to some quiet music. It's quite relaxing. It kind of seems like you're taking the stance that you must be stressed when you're working, and if you're not stressed, you're not working. I don't really subscribe to that idea. Stress actually results in worse work product, more absenteeism, less engagement, and increased turnover (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7889069/). Working from the office where everyone's miserable, equipment and facilities are falling apart, and few enough people understand volume control that there's always someone shouting to hear themselves over their noise canceling headphones increases stress, likely worsening work product. Working from home with functioning equipment, a toilet that isn't covered in pi-s (well, speaking for myself), and coffee that isn't awful is far more relaxing, and improves the quality of my work product.
@c6 maybe less noisy and less distracting but if you tell someone you’re going to go relax, do you then do work or go chill on your couch? That’s the point I’m making. No one goes to work to relax. They go on vacation or hit the couch BECAUSE OF things like work. The genius poster is simply trying to cover up the fact that his post made himself look ridiculous and part of the problem.
Idk, I can put on some tunes at home, much more relaxing than Jimbo shouting about sports so the whole office can hear.
@c3 Yep still relaxing and working. Got a lot things done today.
Portland risk people do not come in as much as they should, and they get away with it.
@bm don’t think anyone is disagreeing about getting work done at home. Just disagreeing with the mo--n saying he’s relaxing but working.
In one of the hubs people were badging in and unable to badge out due to technical difficulties with badge activation. Some access management or corporate security group claimed to be working on the issue for months.
They failed and at some point gave up so they removed the badge out.
This actually rules, fu-k the other folks in this thread. I also leave after about 1. I can't get anything done in the office because the equipment is so garbage (dual monitors on the cheapo docks they bought only work on windows machines, I bring my own keyboard and mouse because the provided ones are full of like dead skin and food crumbs), so I go home whenever I need to actually get something done. My time in the office is either teams meetings or replying to emails or listening to podcasts, real work gets done at home.
Oh no I'm laid off. I should've listened. Noooooooo.
Stupid poster. You are ruining WFH for everyone with that attitude. Why do you think corps want RTO, cuz d-mbasses are asking how to abuse the system to “relax”. At least pretend, foolish
Go F yourself . I hope you get laid off OP
In the building where I work, the restrooms are outside our suite so I badge in multiple times every day. I wonder how that looks on the tracking report. I assume it is looking at whether we badge in at least once in the day. But unless you have an abnormally huge bladder it would be odd to only badge in once in a day unless you are just showing up to badge in and then go home. Regardless, I stay an 8 hour day once I'm in the office. Almost nobody else does.
The crybaby is still crying while he is "working" but looks at this post constantly. Go work my crybaby.
Man work is so relaxing right now.
And the id--t “relaxing” at work
The people that stay until lunch (provided they're working 4 hours in the office) a day on average aren't the issue, and leadership needs to just leave well enough alone. It's the people that are coming in for like an hour or two and then leaving. Those are the folks that are ruining it for everyone and are going to cause us to have to badge out.
Obvious troll post and you all fell for it.
they removed badge out at some locations. the reason being us bank has issues activating badges properly
As has already been said, IP/VPN connections are tracked. Some sites require employees to badge in, but not all - yet. There are sites that have the tech capability to require badging out that have not enabled it, but Senior Leadership has caught on to the people who swipe, stay until lunch (if that) and then leave, and they are prepared to require badging out because those people have taken advantage of the flexibility and ruined it for everyone else. They will use it to justify five days in office, so, thanks everyone!
In most locations badging out is not required. However, they are tracking your IP/VPN connections. So if you badge in and connect to the native USB connection, then go home and connect via VPN, that is being tracked as well.
Aren't you supposed to be working? Why are you relaxing on this post? So id--tic. Hypocrite.
You’ve said it before??? lol. Lies. Id--t. The guy that wants to work from home and relax. You’re so ignorant you don’t realize you’re the problem. Work was relaxing. Oh ok. Never been said. You don’t need a vacation! You can just work to relax!
It’s less about the badge swipe and more about where you are logged in from, how many keystrokes and mouse movements you average…yes, that day is coming. People who are actually working will have no problem. Those who take naps at home when they are supposed to be working will have problems.
I've said it before. "Ah work today has been so relaxing." Such a crybaby you are. You just wait on these posts and cry huh?