Thread regarding HCSC (Health Care Service Corporation) layoffs

@OP Coming into the office isn't hard. It's in the same location each time I try to find it.

@1td you don’t have to swipe out, that was intended to refer to swiping in only or leaving shortly after you have badged in.

@1td you don’t

@1zv if meaningless dialogue was a….

@1zn nope. Nice try though.

No, because most people know that with the exception of a few people that shouldn't be, most are in areas where they are allowed to telecommute, like UM, or they have an accommodation, through their medical provider, or they have closed the office in their location, and moved them to telecommuter status.

Lots of smaller offices got closed around COVID.

Has anyone ever questioned why we have so many telecommuters?
If they really wanted to get people back in the office as a whole, they would reduce that number.

By this d-mb logic, the slackers are mostly the telecommuters. They never come in!

In reality, many people are more productive and get more done by working at home. Stopping the portion of those required to not telecommute from using judgement to what best suits them will result in less work getting done and more resentment to upper management, HR, and the portion allowed to telecommute because of their job grade or their "special" exceptions.

@1wf Oh captain my captain!

I am so over the coffee badgers and people who want to do the bare minimum. Your insistence on being slackers has kept near-constant attention on this literally years after the policies were implemented.

It's your fault that HR has to keep pulling these reports at more granular levels, and it is your fault that it keeps getting incrementally worse.

It is now my personal mission to report as many of you as I can, so this will end. I encourage all other good employees at all sites to do the same if they are sick of these slackers still trying to skate by and making things worse for the rest of us.

There’s no swiping on exit at any of our offices that I’ve ever visited. They have no systematic way to catch “coffee badgers”, it relies on your peers who are complying with the policy raising a concern if you are not, at which point HR will investigate and you’ve got about a week to find a new job or start showing up to this one.

Correct, I intended it to mean that people who fall below 2, for our area anyone at 1.5 or less, were spoken to about their time.

@1rv It’s not 1.5 days/week, the report shows anyone averaging under 2 days a week.

According to the memo my VP showed us in a team meeting, accounting for PTO and holidays we should actually be averaging 2.5.

@1rv Where do you have to swipe “out”?

@1p1 do we know if the 1.5 days requires a full day swiped with eight hours or can it include say a swipe in and out in under eight hours? Basically curious if you can badge in and out to get counted for required days?

I’ve also been told people not hitting days in office thresholds are going to be served coaching memos. Which coinciding with mid year performance reviews means a lot of people will be off target

I know we’ve all heard about this ‘report’ before but this is different. If it has not been pushed out by your area then it will soon. This is not being monitored dept. to dept., it’s the enterprise. I’ve seen the previous reports and this new one. The formatting is completely different, there are Q&A with it and there is an official policy and repercussions associated with it. Meaning there is effort behind it.

Our area is very relaxed, and when I originally saw this post, I thought all the same things being posted here. Last week, we were told about it and it’s not a joke. 1.5 days a week average, which considers PTO and holidays. The report addresses LOAs, too.

Sr. Leadership is being held accountable, it’s not falling to your managers. Offenders in our area will be talked to by their Director level leaderships only. Verbal warning, write up, then termination. If you’ve been non compliant, you’re done. Trimming the fat…

When mo mo brings his bad built a-s in 3 days maybe others will follow

@f5 HR just gives us a report. It’s up to us how we act upon it.

@em - HR will penalize them though. That is the issue. Micromanaging instead of letting leaders lead.

In our department the managers have some flexibility and authority to do what’s best for employees. As an example we do not want people in the office when they are sick. No one is going to penalize them if they’re sick or contagious but feel good enough and want to work. It’s silly to think we would punish people who WTF more than two days in a week if they are truly sick.

Depends on the department. Our department is still 1 or less. I have seen the management dashboard reports. Most people are under 2. It is the 1 and under on the report that are being addressed right now.

The application of rules is wildly inconsistent with Telecommuters allowed based on level or by exceptions given out to many.
The office is still mostly empty and meetings are still all on Teams, so it doesn't matter where you are.

They switched to under 2 this week.

People have different amounts of PTO. You are penalized for having more PTO than others.

They are only doing follow-up with employees with less than a 1 day a week average as well...for now.

@av Try it and let us know.

@b8 This is why they’re only actually seeing people with under 2 days average. If you used all your time off you’d still be at 2.5 for the year.

This type of mismanagement also forces sick people who can still work to come into the office and spread their sickness to others.

The problem is they count Holidays and PTO as being out of the office. So,take a week of vacation and you are behind. It's ridiculous micromanagement that actually makes people work less.

So I can badge in on Saturday and Sunday and stay off the report?

You’re supposed to be in 3 days, you can’t manage 2 days, and they give you two chances to fix it.

This sounds reasonable.