So it’s been asked many times, but does anybody have the actual numbers for US-based IT reductions? It’s higher than the 15-20% across the enterprise, but other than that, we’ve received no real info.
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I’ve never seen a CIO or executive who arrives at the office at 8, coming off that woodlands express… hides in his office all day long, and leave the office at 4 pm.
He’s not even clocked in the office for 9 hours. No executive at that level works as little hours as he does.
Yes, I am counting, because he keeps track of ours. We all enjoy that work life balance as the rank and file, but every VP works a good bit of hours and puts in discretionary time. This guy doesn’t connect with people outside of work either. He goes home and really enjoys life, during this time. Making that sweet 40+ PSG pay, while working less than a 19. Poor MA does all his b1tch work to try to salvage him in front of BK, MN, EB MW. Because lord knows that this guy is a disaster waiting to happen, or already happened, with these executives
Les is in hiding lately.
He hasn’t been around much because he’s scheming to bring his cronies into the company to steal from Chevron.
Mark Nelson made a horrific hire. There’s not one person I’ve spoken to in the business who thinks Les is competent. There’s a lot of negative comments on here from IT people because he’s the head of the function during a layoff event. That’s natural.
But the word inside the business leadership circles is that we’ve made the worst hire. Even our suppliers we work with - those who have supported GM and HP in the past - they are wondering how this guy became the CIO of Chevron when he could not sniff CIO at his previous, less complex, worse IT companies.
Mark Nelson didn’t know that he essentially hired a PSG 26-27 equivalent from GM with a PSG 24 experience at HP… to be a PSG 42 at Chevron.
We could probably put it back on BB and the FLT for not educating business leaders like Mark Nelson about how IT is actually run. If you think 2020 was bad with the outsourcing and MSPs, wait until this sh-tshow goes down in June, and digital core R2 goes live.
It’s one thing to not have your little random widgets working, but it’s another thing with your ERP goes down, and cybersecurity and data privacy is compromised because he’s decided what he’s doing is OK.
@za+1jq2zrx7k they say the same about you and if you have been at CVX for several years then you are likely a millionaire too, so F-u too!
Les was straight up asked he replied that he doesn’t like confirming bad news. So he lies. Number one question at town hall: “If you know percentages, why not tell us the number of layoffs.” It was deleted. Les is an S-B hired to fire us all then collect his millions. F these millionaires. Rich Flu them all. MW is an undereducated, over-aged greedy twit. Under his leadership we have failed but the greedy board doesn’t care about you or me. Billion in stock buybacks. Loans to pay dividend. Everyone involved in the last reorg is still running g the next.
@https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@gb+1jq2zrx7k
Yes, if you get a position with Houston as the location, you need to move to Houston. If you’re not willing to move to Houston, you should have done AEOI because declining that Houston-based job (or refusing to show up to Houston to do the job) is quitting and you will forfeit any severance.
Its 38% of the Houston IT workforce. Someone did some back of the napkin math with legit staffing level numbers
as the saying goes, "you don't know what you don't know" - especially for many of the 60+% who never worked outside of CVX.... many are actually excited about the change and the future & they just don't say it loudly of course...
lol experienced outsiders..
Look at the places where they’ve been, and the offshoring that has happened, and what the state of those companies are after they’ve left.
The CIO only knows app rationalization and confuses data engineering with data management, and wants to build up Chevron’s business knowledge base for data management in India (right now), where none of our business sits. Where do you think that business logic comes from?
Maybe that’s why General Motors is in all these data privacy lawsuits and performance issues all around. The guy he tried to bring in to run data was a failed GM motor sport group that didn’t get funded and was cut - so he had a buddy available to come over. Fortunately, he was fired before he even started.
Another set of slides for the IT org has been published indicating the concentration of IT services in the (4) tech centers, Houston, India, Manila, and BA. Many teams no longer have a presence in the US and the only city listed is Houston. One question I have is, will they make everyone live in Houston or can people live in another city and report to Houston? If someone has to move to Houston, only to be laid off in the next round of workforce reductions in 2027 and beyond that is very poor management decision making.
lots of drama in this page - just talk to folks in IT outside of CVX especially companies in Bay Area. They all have Bengaluru and also BsAs offices. From Salesforce to Walmart.
The problem with CVX IT is our talent is still concentrated in US and eventually the manila culture became "IT coordinators" as well. If we need strong technical talent, not a lot of options honestly and our current technical bench is not strong to begin with - so u just move another power pointer from SWE to a data engineer/analyst or cyber role even though they are not close to be qualified.
That's why the new IT leaders in Bengaluru was not built by current IT senior leaders - but by experienced outsiders -- they want a change in culture - (more delivery and results focused)
Anything below 40% of total IT staff and 70% of IT XLT is too few.
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I agree with you. Even if you make it through this layoff, the writing is on the wall. IT is moving to India and more of the US IT workforce will be let go in the next 3 to 5 years.
Go to the CIO SharePoint site and you will see the IT plan on PowerPoint is only through 2027. In 2020, the plan went through 2025 and coincidentally it is 2025 and we are reorging again. So if the pal only goes to 2027, then the next reorg for IT will be in 2027.
Maybe 70%. The IT leadership didn't fight for it. They didn't care. They messed up in 2020, and now they are leaving.
But, even if you stay, ENGINE will replace you sooner or later. So, it's over. Time for a new journey.
We heard 40
Greater than 75% for teams in ITFP.
Less than 5% for special snowflake teams like digital core, triple crown, and the AI group. Possibly even 0%.
Some entire teams have been identified to be moved to the Engine. So that will be 100% for those teams. Other teams will be partially moved to Manila and BA. Very few teams will be left untouched. The total percentage does not matter because if your job is not funded to stay in the USA, then you are 100% impacted.
@40% based off current IT employees. That’s an average cause depending on varying information it has a small range.
It’s a huge percentage and that’s probably why they don’t want to mention it in any town halls.
Mind you this 40% is what been worked on to move, this doesn’t include recent AEOI.
OP: this round, next round or the next? why does the number matter to you? It will be a lot and that’s all anyone will know until there’s no one left to cut.
Maybe not >50%, but definitely between 40% and 50%
IT will be cut >50%