Has anyone refused to sign a PIP and what was the outcome?
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PIP survivor here.
One of the lucky few, I guess.
Surviving is possible, but it's strange coming out the other side. You wonder what exactly it is that you are staying for. For the opportunity to maybe claw your way back up to getting a normal raise/ bonus one day? Because no matter what mistakes you save the company from on your way back from "PME", you aren't getting that "exceeds" bo--y. Facts don't matter. You are blackballed.
From day 1 of your PIP announcement, start looking for something better. And never stop, even if you "beat the PIP". Once you are marked there is nothing left for you here.
@dmdf+1t52e5Us is correct on all counts.
I am hoping they can use those phoney PIPs to trace those of us who were unfairly treated in case a class action lawsuit against USAA materializes. I want to see USAA sued en masse, hopefully straightening out their very dishonest business practices. And don't reply that all companies do this. I have been in IT for 30+ years, and that is simply not true.
Once you get a PIP, you only have a 15% chance of succeeding through it. Less chance at 100% bonus/raise. At that moment, start looking for a job that day. Is it worth your energy to fight the PIP? Or find a company with real leaders that are mature? You recruit out teammates that've had enough of this tone-deaf shell of a company.
Theres actually a layoff list????
Eek, how cruel!
What other criteria is on this list???
Even if you successfully overcome a PIP you will likely make it to the layoff list when your area comes up for cuts. It was one of the criteria for choosing who goes.
It isn’t the managers pushing the PIPS.
Either you deal with the fallout of reporting this pip to hr/director or you comply and leave. If reporting you need to have your facts straight. USAA you need to check in on your managers. This isn’t the first time I’ve heard of bogus PIPS being handed out.
Start looking for a new job, pronto. They are not meant to be beaten. I got PIP'ed and subsequently fired. Best thing to ever happen to me. Got a fully remote job and a 20% raise. Fu-k USAA, tbh.
Unless you get an AVP to call BS you are not responsible! Fortunately at the time we had some great executive leaders, had a proven track record of my work ethics, had documentation to show it was BS, so it was removed.
It stays on your records even if you successfully completed it.
Agree with previous post, as a former manager, signing a PIP does not mean you are off the hook. If you have not started your job search, please do so immediately because unfortunately PIPs at USAA are not really done in good faith that you can recover. Sorry you are experiencing this but it's likely a blessing in disguise!
As a prior manager I can tell you that it doesn't matter if you sign it or not. You are still responsible for it.