Just finishing meeting with manager and he says I don't have enough computer action. I complete all my assigned tasks on time, never been found wanting. I asked how the data is collected and I'm told it's classified. Why hang me if you can't tell me how to improve. I guess I'll be getting IM rating.
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Don’t we get an hour of breaks? So that means everyone shows up on the report if they report you are offline greater than 59 minutes.
If you’re now away for over 59 minutes per working day, you will appear on that report.
I just showed up on the new weekly risk report stating I wasn’t green/active for 7 hours and 1 minute of the work day twice last week.
I can think of easy ways to boost CPU time but it’s probably tracking keyboard and mouse and application switching. Have jigglers improved?
It's "classified" because the only knowledge of the guidelines comes from people experimenting to see where the numbers land. Being on a Teams call does not count as activity for instance unless that mouse is moving. It rewards steady input, not processes that use thinking or refining before doing a higher speed mass computer entry.
I had an annual review where I was told that our objectives had changed but we were never told they had changed. Nice to be told that you didn't meet objectives because they changed your goal at sometime during the year to a higher goal that was never communicated to us.
Listen to Bullet with Butterfly wings by Smashing Pumpkins or read the lyrics. It describes the WF environment
"Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage". We are or have been in a psychological experiment.
@n4
I haven't done that since 2009. Got burned in a meeting and never have I made any attempt to meet any of these dufuses. I am out on pto when I get wiff they are in town.
Or having to give up a work from home day because a higher up will be in the office. Then the day comes and goes and you never see them.
Oh he was here, but he's already left.
OP responding to their own posts - true mental illness
Just a tool to justify firing and while they set you up they gas-light you to leave. Same sh-t happened to me with mysterious metrics not in perforance metrics. The metric was totally manipulated by direct manager. I was told I could not see metric or what others got. I had over 30 yrs experience, including mgr at WF and never worked for such a fu---d up management!
@OP
Classified?
I would'nt take that as any answer.
Demand to know what they are looking at. Make them explain what the discrepancy is.
Remember, it's your right. If they don't tell you, complain to your 2 up.
If that doesn't work, then you know where you stand and then you can decide if you want to move on or not.
So this whole AI, ML, and automation-thing has been a double-edged sword...
You expected us to find ways to reduce the time and manual work needed for mundane tasks by utilizing AI, ML, automation (be it Python, VBA, etc.), then want to call us out for sitting on our keesters while we're waiting for the next firedrill.
Un-forking believable.
its true. I was just told they are monitoring productivity but not told how but this has to be by monitoring my computer usage, etc because this is separate from badging in and out of building.
It is clear that Charles Scharf’s computer activity is insufficient.
How crazy is the American workplace becoming? People actually keeping track of mouse click activity? I want a job like that, just for clicks and giggles!
RTO requirement, location strategy, mid-year "check in," stack ranking, and now computer activity tracking. Land mines and traps from all directions. They REALLY want us gone :(
Monitoring computer activity only really works if you are in a call center or processing type of role, where you start the day with a big pile of X and just plow kind of mindlessly all day to transform it into a pile of Y by end of day. If your role is development, problem solving, incident resolution, consulting, engineering, or any number of other knowledge work roles, things ebb and flow. Some of my most important work involves just researching and thinking sometimes. Or talking through a problem in a room full of people. Or being available when something catches fire and a fast response is needed. Activity monitoring on roles that don't perform rote tasks is mistaking visible activity for actual productivity. Worse, it incentivizes people to optimize for looking busy instead of solving hard problems. Long term, its going to hollow out Wells Fargo's capacity for problem solving, and push away the people whose contributions are exponential rather than additive.
See here's the problem. Most jobs like the one I had, really couldn't continually be working as this implies.
For example, you work on a team where there is a shared mailbox, so you're waiting for work to come in. You work requests and get caught up. Then there's the time zone thing. Still waiting for more work. There isn't a type and be active all day. Not anyone's fault we are that efficient.
It's nuts and silly to think that they expect people to babysit a computer all day. I'm sure that the people from the top that all this is coming from aren't. Practice what you preach.
Further, It may be a long time before something comes in. It then becomes inefficient to other activities. If I'm at home, I see absolutely no reason I couldn't get up do to laundry while waiting and occasionally monitoring the box. Or in the office, no harm getting up taking a walk for awhile.
Had i kept sitting there, it's a diminishing returns kind of situation.
More #wellsfargoshitshow in action.
I remember doing some early pilot projects with Celonis like 4-5 years ago to track activity across applications. The vendor went to great pains to explain to Wells leadership that the purpose of the software was to provide them with insight, and if they tried to make computer activity into a target it would cease to be useful. More than that, it would create a negative incentive structure and start to elicit the wrong performance, as people focus on manipulating their behavior to try to keep their name off the naughty list, instead of just focusing on doing their actual job. I knew during those initial conversations that was absolutely where things were going to end up. Wells can't seem to help itself from choosing the absolute worst course of action in any given scenario. We learned absolutely nothing from the account scandal.
@ae
Love your arguement.
You hear a rumour. You go from how your work comes in spurts to a perceived solution of gaming the system to a conclusion of "banks need to be slit up".
Your so precious.
What LOB is this?
@aq is the type of jeenyuss that doesn't even skim the contract before signing.
@OP STOP LYING...
I will not miss this nonsense. Leaving soon…countdown has begun.
Totally unprofessional behavior observed by risk asset review.
@aq So tell how it's tracked
@aa if you are unable to deduce how “computer activity“ is tracked it sounds like you are the actual clown show.
lol, course correct. Does your husband need tell you to wipe better when he’s washing your $h!tty underwear too?
Unfortunately you've been culled from the herd and will be dinner in a few months.
2022: in office face to face collaboration is THE most important thing we do.
2026: you are fired for not using your computer enough.
You can't make this S up. It's completely obvious that HY constantly and intentionally shifts the goal posts for no other reason than to create fake reasons for firing people. They can all F off.
Funny. I was just thinking about this because of the rumors of tracking. My work comes in waves so one month it could be non stop but then one month might be slow. Can I carry over my “extra busy time”? Lol. So ridiculous that we have to try and game the system just to do actual work. These banks need to get split up. They have too much time on their hands.
Insufficient computer activity ? That sounds like they're asking for a remedy or an excuse - try: "I’m not lazy, I’m just in energy-saving mode."
If he's not willing to tell you how the data is collected, how does he expect you to course correct?
Fu--ing clown show
So unfair. I have some weeks where I'm crazy busy, and others where I have lots of free time. I volunteer for any extra work but sometimes there isnt any.
@OP So they're pulling the "classified" bullsh-t!?!? Laughable. That's the cr-p people pull when they do the stolen valor. Can't access my Navy SEAL records because they're "classified". Total BS.
Just tell him you’ve been collaborating in the office
Employees are just monkeys in the zoo LOL