Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

ENGINE Engineers

Hi Ya’ll. No layoff news here nor any cheap shots at anyone-just a general concern. There are colleagues that I’ve become close with and genuinely care about at Chevron. I am scared for them and myself to work in/on/around anything that is designed or engineered in Bengaluru. We don’t play with cheap trinkets in this business, but rather equipment put under the most intense conditions imaginable. I pray we don’t have any events that are the direct result of the ENGINE decision.

https://m.economictimes.com/jobs/only-6-of-those-passing-out-of-indias-engineering-colleges-are-fit-for-a-job/articleshow/64446292.cms

https://m.economictimes.com/industry/services/education/india-is-in-the-middle-of-an-engineering-education-crisis/articleshow/63680625.cms

https://theprint.in/world/boeing-engineers-blame-cheap-indian-software-for-737-max-problems/256999/

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Post ID: @OP+1jjd36p9a

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“You will find a lot of people with fake resumes were hired with very little competence”

That’s why you have Indian-Americans running the show. They will know how to weed out the fakes.

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Post ID: @rj+1jjd36p9a

The benefits and ROI were oversold by the project team, Engine is not the best use of our capital. To setup an office in a place with all kinds of risks and the only drawcard is marginal labor cost reduction. The cost reduction will not materialize for many years and we will have locked up 3billion that could have been making money. It's some creative accounting at best.

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Post ID: @r9+1jjd36p9a

It's a bit misleading to say that Indians are bad engineers, it's not the case, and there are many good Indian engineers both in the US and in India. The issue is that the good engineers are rarer and more expensive, and you can't find 600 in a short period of time when the goal is to reduce costs or pay less. Imagine trying to do that here, there would be many bad hires because of the strange deadline that is being imposed. What's the rush?

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Post ID: @qh+1jjd36p9a

Americans will find out first hand how dysfunctional India is when Engine goes into effect. You will find a lot of people with fake resumes were hired with very little competence.

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Post ID: @q8+1jjd36p9a

MSP were the initial part of going cheap. You get what you pay for. That should be taken as a lesson to not keep going the same route , but oh well

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Post ID: @je+1jjd36p9a

@d2+1jjd36p9a the IT $ht show cannot be blamed away on one MSP. RS has a group of clowns that can’t do basic things like having a high performance network. They use words like modern, cloud, strategic, AI, rationalize to make themselves sound more competent. IT leadership and management suks. The MSP model, selection of MSPs rests on BB. Unless spineless puts him in a DEI category it can’t be blamed away on women, colored people, other genders etc.

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Post ID: @da+1jjd36p9a

HCL were the team that deleted all our computers from the network weren't they?

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Post ID: @d2+1jjd36p9a

Rockwell Collins made MCAS but guess what...

"Rockwell Collins, which makes cockpit electronics, had been among the first aerospace companies to source significant work in India in 2000, when HCL began testing software there for the Cedar Rapids, Iowa-based company. By 2010, HCL employed more than 400 people at design, development and verification centers for Rockwell Collins in Chennai and Bangalore"

It's also true that our MCPs use low cost labor, this isn't really a flex, many design issues have resulted.

Engine is 100% about cost, it's not going to be possible to match the engineering, but the leadership has calculated that it doesn't matter. It's the move from being an oil company to a financial company, we risk becoming even more irrelevant.

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Post ID: @d1+1jjd36p9a

It’s not only Boeing engineers leaving for SpaceX. I’ve heard of several Chevron engineers leaving for SpaceX and all the equity that comes with it.

They might be on to something.

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Post ID: @ax+1jjd36p9a

Well, Exxon did it without success so let’s double down on our lack of vision by ensuring there will be no future innovation. The Chevron Way!

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Post ID: @ac+1jjd36p9a

Ah, so much for no cheap shots... ROFL.

But hey, why let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good race-baiting or using tragedy for a political narrative? For those who might still be living under a rock, here’s a helpful little link from HBS that gives a nice rundown on Boeing’s 737 MAX issues. You know, just in case you haven't been distracted by the latest outrage of the week.
https://www.library.hbs.edu/working-knowledge/why-boeings-problems-with-737-max-began-more-than-25-years-ago

Also, the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) software code and the computer for executing the control laws were built to Boeing's specifications by Collins Aerospace, formerly Rockwell Collins in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Augmentation_System#:~:text=The%20Maneuvering%20Characteristics%20Augmentation%20System,and%20crew%20among%20both%20flights.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/boeings-737-max-design-contains-fingerprints-of-hundreds-of-suppliers/2019/04/05/44f22024-57ab-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html

@OP can’t wait for your next post on DEI or RM. That should be a real treat.

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Post ID: @a6+1jjd36p9a

They are cheaper. That's all Chevron executives care about. The ironic part is that MW spent so much time talking about us not becoming the next Kodak when in reality we are becoming the next Boeing.

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Post ID: @a3+1jjd36p9a

Boeing experienced a major setback with the plane crashes they had so there are real examples of that risk coming to fruition. The young engineers are also leaving Boeing for SpaceX and Blue Origin.

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