Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Wow... the last few posts on this thread...

Can't we just get along?

And if not...

I'd like to purchase 10,000 marbles please.
Oh boy, is this great!!

@1be believe me I do NOT want to visit your shitehole country, but your managers keep asking and begging us to visit, and we are chided if we don’t, so yep we have to cruise through there and make an appearance. I’ll be in and out ASAP.
What would be even better is if YOU stopped visiting Houston, zero value added by those expensive trips. And get your managers to stop begging us over as well.

The biggest skill gaps exist in Americans, hence Argentina, Brazil and India have to help.

Yes we are cheap, because our countries are are not gluttonous consumer pigs like you.

to all americans visiting india for corporate tourism — keep your soul dead, patgetic, loathsome Houston culture out of our country, come in do your job, take your photos and leave. You add zero value in Houston and negative value when you ‘visit’ BTC. It might make you feel superior, because you are only your egos.

Leave us 1/8th salary moderately skilled people alone, we are atleast happy and content. YOUR leaders have chosen to do work in India, because YOU su-k.

They just want XOM on the CV and then jump to an MBA or another company.

Their lack of critical thinking is ki-ling me

Quite a few of the guys in btc are really good. They want learn and are a pleasure to work with. But there are others that aren't very good and dont respond to coaching. So its largely the same as every country I've worked in.... good and bad mixed up together. I dont care for the negativity, there isn't a choice about it, its happening. If you work with them then you can do good things and make a difference, but you have to work hard with them to do it.

@j2 Never seen an engineer at EM do any of those things. Conversations I’ve had would have been much different if they did.

In fact, I’m convinced that engineers in large oil companies (EM included) are incapable of reading or interpreting data period. Some of the things I’ve heard many of you say over the years have been…interesting. I’ll be happy to provide examples if you like. Ready to be embarrassed? If not, then don’t ask.

@ds Sure. If the output is the same, paying less of course makes sense. But in my experience working with BTC, the output hasn’t been the same. it’s actually noticeably worse, sometimes even negative.

I’m obviously generalizing. I’ve worked closely with 10+ BTC devs, and that’s been my experience. Maybe the strong ones are tied up elsewhere and I’m just getting unlucky.

My bigger gripe is with management pushing the narrative that we’re saving money, when in practice it often costs more once you factor in rework and wasted time.

@dr Skill gap in coding, data science, modeling, and engineering in general... I don't care about outsourcing or offshoring. I’ve worked with contractors from India who were legit good.

@d4 Wrong slur AH.

@cw They’re cheap, and most Americans are mediocre. If you’re going get mediocre output, may as well pay a mediocre price.

If you ran a business you’d be doing the same thing.

@OP Skills gap in doing what? Cutting and pasting overlay specs for vendors?

I don’t like outsourcing/offshoring anymore than you do, but can we all stop pretending that working in an oil company office job is highly-skilled?

@cx

Pipe down and get back to work.

@cx

You go Haji!!!

BTC employees are still better than the fat d-mb Americans on Houston campus. Most of them don’t shower and stink.The others are depressed pychotics who do nothing but pretend doing made up work, gossip and coffee chats.

The fact is we are seeing immense benfits of BTC and hence the continued growth. The overheads in Houston are insane, less than 20% of employees return the value of the salary they are paid so just stop this BS about blaming people in a country oceNs away. No one cares there. it is the most happiest, fun, content and enjoyable plakce to be in the company at this time.

The incompetence at BTC is staggering. No common sense, no critical thought. BTC is a drain on the company resources, not a help. They mess up far more than they help.

@bm if Management is too stupid to realize they are destroying the company with this strategy then they deserve to take the company down in flames, far be it from me to try to convince them otherwise. Hide and watch!

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Management doesn't want to hear the truth. Not worth bringing it up - it will only hurt your ranking if you don't support their false narrative.

I've noticed that everything my junior btc engineer processes is from copilot or chatgpt.

Everything. And if they can't get it copilot to read the pdf document in edge they are completely sc--wed.