@xe Sorry if I offended you, for me It’s hard to understand why layoffs happened at this scale in our area when the business is performing well and leadership is working hard.
Any idea why we got impacted at this scale?
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@xa There are many people who were laid off across the company who were competent, talented and dedicated. It was a cold hearted numbers exercise.
@x7 That wasn’t my experience. But maybe you know something the rest of us don’t.
But honestly, if she was the one actually running the business instead of DZ then she wasn’t doing a very good job. Not saying it’s easy though. Sorry if that offends you.
@x7 if that is the case, why CD got layed off too?
@am that’s just flat out rude and disrespectful about CD. She was running the business and doing so tirelessly. If you didn’t see that, perhaps you aren’t at a level that would recognize what it takes to get it done.
@am DZ was not a good leader. Many people are not sad to see her leave. She did ignore obvious problems and others will have to clean it up. What’s bad is that people in ESI who are getting these functions are just as clueless in managing as DZ. Let’s see how long we last, growing or not.
@ex That's a great question. We’re actually growing, unlike many other business units. I get that we’re not going to be totally immune from layoffs but it seems like we got hit even harder than businesses that are not growing.
Anybody know why lot of people impacted in PS, even though we are growing in business every year?
@d4 Some companies are training employees on new roles and skills so that the company can automate , the employee stays working there but in a new job with modern skills. Payer Solutions bleeds you dry, doesn’t invest in our skills, and lets you get old and useless old skills bc they automate behind the scenes and then lay people off. Some companies invest in new technology AND their employees so that they grow and change together. Thats why pslt was never Leaders. They were Bosses. Still are with or without D
@cv Every large company is outsourcing jobs, automating everything they can and pushing AI non-stop. Cigna is no different. If Cigna doesn’t figure out how to constantly do things cheaper and faster we’re going to get crushed by competitors.
It totally su-ks for us employees who will be impacted but it’s just the sad reality of capitalism and corporate America. Having uncaring or clueless leaders - like the one who was just let go in Payer - just makes it worse. But it is inevitable.
I am encouraging my kids to go into the trades since those types of jobs are much less likely to be impacted by all this. It’s a scary time. Stay strong everyone.
@az exactly. Remember when they fired the call center and moved that to India or wherever. Same idea. Then they tell us not to talk about it. They work us as hard as possible while building the automation. Good news is that they are horrible about building the automation so they couldn’t lay as many people off as quickly as they wanted (probably lol). Everyone is an employee number and a cost to the company that they would rather eliminate to get themselves a bigger bonus. pslt not sure how they look themselves in the mirror
@am Currently they are spending huge money on migrating the legacy applications to reduce manual efforts, with that they are planning to reduce our operational people in this year,
any thoughts on this?
Oh wow, you got all nostalgic. Sorry it’s changed
Can I say shout out to the good old days of Great-West. I miss that. Even going to the older offices, multiple different ones in St. Louis, even the far one at Maritz with the hot stuffy walking bridge over the highway and stir fry Friday in the cafeteria…I miss what we used to be.
We can say that
@a8 OK then. So can we say that D.Z. was a terrible “leader” who created a toxic, backstabbing culture, ignored obvious problems until they became huge emergencies, and drove employee morale into the ground? I haven’t talked to anyone who’s sorry she’s gone.
And C.D. was just an extra layer. I never saw the point in having her.
Because it takes a village…
And they thought we had too many leaders. The village can and will get the same output in their mind without the cost of multiple tiers of directors.
It’s getting deleted because people keep putting actual names and admin will delete for their safety. Just use initials when discussing
Ha, be careful. For some reason posts about Payer Solutions keep getting deleted. Why is this topic so sensitive?
I have no clue about the future of Payer. I guess for now we’ll be run directly by the PBM account management team, which seems strange and probably won’t last too long. We’ve been moved around like 3 times in the past 5-6 years so who knows?