Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Time to clear house. The house eero built

Reposting for visibility. The original question was why address design structure in the wake of a 2 billion dollar loss on ev side of the business.

@ff I would say both. Studio for reasons mentions by a few people here. It's honestly an antiquated group within the company. Very old school way of thinking there. As the company evolves around them they are stuck in a bubble of arrogance. Way too top heavy on the salary structure, just look at the amount of level 7/8s there vs how many people actually do the work. Others areas at wtc might have one L8 covering hundreds of workers. Over there it feels the opposite.

As far as design when it pertains to production parts and process's I would say there is some bloat on that end as well. You start talking about DREs that "own" one or two widget parts on the car or maybe a couple models. They didn't design the part, there might not be changes to the parts, there might have been no issues since the part was designed but for some reason we need to have a whole group support it. That goes for almost every system and part put on the car. Leadership is scrambling trying to right the ship but they are cutting the wrong items out of our proven process's. Ask yourself why we still have multi thousand car floats that need repair at ALL of our plants... I'll answer for you... We didn't actually test anything like we used too because some out of touch boomer thinks AI and virtual reality will solve the companies problems. While we are at it why is so much money being dumped into battery development at this Wallace lab and the shuttering of mock up. The public has spoken, not many people want evs, especially without the tax credit. maybe Steve Jenkins can answer at the next Cole podium fireside lunch and learn brought to you by Starbucks


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Do you mean styling, the element that is setting us apart from our competition?

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Post ID: @kq+1k85rtjyr

It's pretty wild how so many people create an entire identity as "the GM employee." Then they are fired and end up being haters for life.
"Give up! Quit!"
"GM is terrible."
They buy Toyotas thinking they are sticking it to the man.
In reality, they are just sad, pathetic old has-beens shaking their fists at the sky.

In the meantime, we collect bonuses each year in excess of 20k, receive great benefits and work in a cushy office. When I drive my luxury car into the parking structure each morning, I think about how great General Motors is. I try to enjoy the time I'm there knowing that it could end one day. I don't want to be like these old fools full of resentment. Better to think of the great run I've had, all the great people I've encountered along the way and the insane 401k that will accumulate wealth for years to come.

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Post ID: @gx+1k85rtjyr

Just people who don't like modern technology and want things to go back to the way they were 20 or more years ago

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Post ID: @fv+1k85rtjyr

@cm
Lots of bitter ex-employers here hand wringing.
It's probably a good idea to try to move on and live your life. Let it go. Your bitterness is probably ruining your interpersonal relationships.

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Post ID: @cy+1k85rtjyr

I remember quite a lot of problems being reported for GM EVs. I wouldn't touch a Lyric or Blazer EV even if they have worked the bugs out, which is questionable. GM went agile and compressed schedules regardless of how long the actual work took. A lot of test and validation engineers were either laid off or quit since 2019, and churn isn't good for quality.

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Post ID: @cm+1k85rtjyr

@bq I gotta say. To me. You seem waaay out of touch with the general state of things described. I don't disagree with you on some of what you said. I'm sure you work with a ton of smrt people, you might even be one yourself. The bar is extremely low now a days.

Talk some specifics, what do you really know? It all depends on where you sit in the pecking order. You could be a widget dre yourself and know very little about the business. You could also be pem and know tons but are too scared to speak up? Idk.

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Post ID: @bw+1k85rtjyr

Reposting nonsense from someone who obviously knows nothing about design. "Widgets"
You aren't making a point about GM engineering.
Instead you are embarrassing yourself.
I have been working on GM EV projects for many years with extremely competent, intelligent and creative people. GM didn't write down 1.6 billion because of engineering.
It wrote the loss due to EV credits ending.
Seriously, get a life.

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