Thread regarding Elevance Health (Anthem) layoffs

Flash Drives and Funny Numbers

Excerpt from this site (well worth a read). https://healthcareuncovered.substack.com/p/flash-drives-and-funny-numbers-what

“buried inside the same earnings release was a $935 million charge — the company’s “best estimate” of what it may owe the federal government for years of improper Medicare Advantage billing.”
Based on “February 27 notice from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services:
Medicare Advantage insurers are paid by the government based on the health status of their members. Sicker patients generate higher “risk scores,” which generate higher payments. Insurers are required to submit accurate diagnosis data to CMS through its electronic systems — and if they discover that a diagnosis code isn’t supported by medical records, they’re required to correct it and return any overpayment within 60 days.
Elevance didn’t do that. According to CMS, from November 2018 through October 2025, the company submitted data corrections for unsupported diagnosis codes not through the required electronic systems but via encrypted external USB flash drives — a method CMS had explicitly rejected. During that same period, the company sent CMS seven letters stating it did not intend to use the required systems. CMS sent six letters directing it to comply.
The agency’s language was unambiguous: Elevance’s conduct represents “substantial and persistent noncompliance” that “has persisted for over seven years despite repeated clear directives from CMS.”
The result, as CMS sees it: Elevance collected government overpayments it never returned, and repeatedly certified the accuracy of its data submissions while knowing that unverified diagnosis codes had not been corrected through the required channels.”
“That is not a paperwork problem. That is a description of a company that — for seven years, across multiple administrations — chose to do things its own way with Medicare’s money.”


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Post ID: @OP+1kqgpcx7w

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@c3 They don't care, at all.

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Post ID: @pq+1kqgpcx7w

It’s all about profits & risk. Right now -they believe AI Increase profits more than updating antiquated claims systems. So far, they have been successful in extending CMS deadlines and avoiding any real damage. Time will tell if they calculated the risk to their advantage. Bottom line is greed - very common in similar organizations. I have no knowledge of RIFs or fraud. I am a very small fry. I only know what I read in the news and greed fuels most large organizations. I would just advise be prepared and realize other large organizations are similar and leaving could b better or worse.

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Post ID: @gc+1kqgpcx7w

$1 billion to account for a stupid and unnecessary business practice! The leadership of this company is devoid of ethics, and intelligence. They are driving the bus off a cliff.

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Post ID: @dn+1kqgpcx7w

@cf Yup- so by half a complying it is only kind of fraud. Fraud-light - less calories and you still walk away with your big bonus!! Then when they present at the town hall they talk about historical data, like it is before their time and they have no responsibility. Gail and Felicia are 8 years in, Gloria was 15 years and is on the board. Felicia is getting more responsibility even though GBD is a st show and McVesty gets more responsibility even though he keeps getting the numbers wrong? What were they asking people to do.. Lean in? How about the SLT leans into the fact that they own this mess. Why don't they want Pete to participate with investigations? I don't know if they are sophisticated enough to do real fraud, I think it is just sloppy incompetence, but at what point does the board stop letting the SLT say "oops I did it again".

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Post ID: @dm+1kqgpcx7w

From what I know and have seen here, they didn’t want to incriminate themselves further. If they submitted the correct way and the data was deemed erroneous, that would be fraud.
I hate to say, but I knew that by not validating codes and diagnosis like they had done for years, this may be the outcome. When production/operations decisions are made to push quantity over quality.

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Post ID: @cf+1kqgpcx7w

I would really love to hear an explanation of why our company did this. I think our company owes its employees an explanation after they make us do all this ethics training. And it flies in the face of all the company values.

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