Thread regarding Boeing Co. layoffs

Boeing's new CEO Kelly Ortberg needs to set-up a hotline he answers himself that Boeing employees can call Ortberg directly to report

their Boeing managers mistreatment, bullying or intimidation. The current Boeing system where Boeing HR or Boeing Ethics gets involved first does not cut it. Both Boeing HR and Boeing Ethics are corrupt and will always cover for the abusing Boeing Manager at the expense of the Boeing employee. In all my years at Boeing I have never heard of a Boeing manager being fired after it has been proven their mistreating an employee reporting to them.

Until changes are made where Boeing employees can report abuse, they are being subject to directly to Ortberg don't expect any good to happen at Boeing. Too many toxic cultures in most Boeing groups and there is no trust employees have in Boeing Managers, HR or Ethics if they ever did.

Ortberg also needs to fire these abusing, bullying Boeing managers because the slap on the wrist no longer cuts it.

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The end is near!! Repent!!!!

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Post ID: @7eaj+1u07x20w

Why would he do that when his predecessors have already laid out an exit plan that benefits all future CEO’s lol. Get rich off these employee b-ms before the company falls….

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Post ID: @2umr+1u07x20w

SO
Let me see if I can come around to your point of view through the use
of logic and reason.

You believe the “New Management” has a more humanistic view of their employees.
This new found humanity must have came over them from the feelings
of guilt that arose after they aѕѕaѕѕinated the two Boeing whistleblowers.

NOPE, Can’t see it happening in this century.

@cdx+1u07x20w

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Post ID: @2pgx+1u07x20w

Who cares, the damage is done. Grab some popcorn, sit back and watch the demise of a once great company.

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Post ID: @2rif+1u07x20w

Time to hold Boeing's Leadership as well as the entire Boeing Board of Directors accountable, including former CEO Calhoun.

Some hot-shot big name Attorney should file a Billion-dollar Class Action Lawsuit against Boeing on behalf of all current and former Boeing employees who were subject to abusive Boeing Managers.

Calhoun admitted during his testimony before Congress that he was well aware of retaliation by abusive Boeing managers under his watch and Calhoun didn't do a damn thing about stopping it.

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Post ID: @2fum+1u07x20w

Sell the offices demand 100% work from home.

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Post ID: @1ojg+1u07x20w

If you are uneducated and lack critical thinking skills, you will get what you deserve. Some would have us go back to 1776 and the dduummbb will happily go along with it. As they say, ignorance is bliss...until it isn't...

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Post ID: @1xfi+1u07x20w

https://www.newsweek.com/boeing-ceo-dave-calhoun-meet-whistleblower-historic-meeting-1939301

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Post ID: @1tyv+1u07x20w

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/justice-department-defends-boeing-plea-235233420.html

Justice Department defends Boeing plea deal against criticism by
the 737 Max mսrder victims' surviving family members objections.

DALLAS (AP) — The Justice Department is defending it’s plea deal with Boeing over the two plane that cгashes that kіlled 346 people,
saying in a court filing Wednesday that it lacks evidence to prosecute the company for more serious crimes, such as criminal negligence
with depraved indifference to human life resulting in the homіcіde of
346 men, women and children for profit motives and barging rights
for the number one commercial aircraft producer in the world.

Prosecutors said if the plea deal is rejected and the case goes to trial, they will not offer testimony or evidence about the causes of two cгashes in 2018 in Indonesia and 2019 in Ethiopia, nor will they
charge any of the Boeing conspirators.

Boeing agreed last month to plead guilty to a single felony charge of conspiracy to commit fraud for deceiving regulators who approved
the 737 Max Dҽathtгap.

Tearful story.

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Post ID: @1nwd+1u07x20w

Tearful story. Thanks for sharing.

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Post ID: @1mzu+1u07x20w

My groups Boeing manager really gets off on turning group coworkers on each other. Big time! Manager completely destroyed any trust among the group members, only recement. Besides being a sociopath, our manager forced bi-weekly check-ins with him with everyone in the group. During your 15-minute check-in with him that can turn your stomach, manager was not interested at all in hearing about your work or roadblocks you are facing that he could help relieve. What his goal is in holding these forced bi-weekly check-ins with him was to stir up resentment among your group coworkers. During the unpleasant 15-minutes with manager he would coax, and if that did not work, he will then resort to pressuring you to bad month a coworker in the group by giving him dirt on the person. Then when he met with the other person for their 15-minute check in, either the same week or two weeks after, sociopath manager would share with the other person exactly what he forced out of you to say about your coworker. It got worst then that because manager doesn't bother to hide your identity, when he's told your coworker what he forced out of you to say about them during your check-in with him. Nobody in the group trusted or talked to each other anymore. The overall recement level in the group magnified due to manager's sociopath behavior. At first, everyone in the group wondered how a sociopath could ever be named a Boeing manger to start with. Turns out managers father was a Boeing manager and before he retired nepo baby was named a manger without having to apply to a Boeing Manager job req.

I drafted a letter documenting this managers behavior to send to Boeing Ethics. I decided to wait a day before sending the letter though to give myself time to really think it over first. When it came time, I decided not to send Boeing Ethics the letter due to the personal risk I felt I was taking. Since then, our manager had his way with me by singling me out and due to him I no longer work for Boeing.

In hindsight, I learned as an employee at Boeing you have no resources at Boeing if you report to an abusive manager. I also realized Boeing Ethics or Boeing HR are not going to come to your rescue. Your only option in a situation like this at Boeing is to update your resume and start job hunting to leave Boeing.

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Post ID: @1plq+1u07x20w

Yes this is true! Boeing likes to blame the victims. They want everyone to confirm to the evil ways of the Almighty dollar and job security. If you deviate from the friends and family they hired to be masters you will pay the price sooner than later. The FAA better get as--s out of these chairs and talk more with the actual people one on one about this cesspool of criminals.

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Post ID: @wom+1u07x20w

https://www.radicalcompliance.com/2024/07/29/a-look-at-boeings-plea-agreement/

Pull up a chair, compliance officers! We finally have a text of the Justice Department’s plea agreement with Boeing for the company’s violation of its 2021 deferred-prosecution agreement. Let’s see what the compliance team and senior management have promised to do to improve the company’s misbegotten corporate culture.

The basic terms of the plea agreement, which still needs final court approval, were already known. Boeing must…

  1. Plead guilty to fraud charges;
  2. Accept a three-year probation period;
  3. Hire an independent compliance monitor for three years;
  4. Pay a criminal penalty of $243.6 million; and
  5. Spend $455 million on compliance improvements in the next three years.

All of this stems from the crashes of two Boeing 737 Max jets in the late 2010s, which kіlled 346 people.
Those accidents exposed severe flaws in Boeing’s safety practices and corporate culture, and led to a deferred-prosecution agreement in 2021 that had Boeing pay $2.5 billion in penalties, victim compensation, and other damages.

As part of that first DPA, Boeing had also promised to overhaul its corporate compliance program — except, according to the Justice Department and numerous internal whistleblowers,
That Overhaul Didn’t Take;
Boeing must do even more to improve its nonexistent compliance culture.

That’s the part that needs close scrutiny from compliance officers.
What new steps must Boeing take?

First, Where Boeing Fell Short

We should begin by noting that the feds did give Boeing credit for some compliance program improvements arising from the original DPA. For example, Boeing reorganized its compliance oversight in 2020, abolishing its old Office of Internal Governance and hiring its first dedicated chief compliance officer in May of that year. The company also strengthened its compliance risk assessment process, and implemented new procedures to improve its communication with regulators and customers about safety data.

Despite those improvements, however, prosecutors decided that Boeing “failed to sufficiently extend its anti-fraud and compliance
Along with its nonexistent ethics program over its quality and manufacturing process” before the end of the DPA term.
As a result, prosecutors said, “the department determined that Boeing’s anti-fraud compliance program still has significant gaps.”

For example, all Boeing jets are supposed to be assembled in a certain sequence. Yes, occasionally “out of sequence” work happens, but such work poses a safety risk; and Boeing is supposed to conduct safety risk management assessments to devise ways to reduce the need for out-of-sequence work.

None of those safety risk assessments unfolded in a way that
prosecutors deemed satisfactory, the plea agreement said:

Although fraud is an inherent risk in production and quality compliance activities, Boeing’s Safety Risk Management assessments failed to identify out-of-sequence risk as a fraud risk
or consider enhanced production procedures, or preventive or detective controls, to mitigate the risk.
Boeing’s Global criminal enterprise is in direct opposition to its
Compliance function,
which is responsible for Boeing’s antifraud ethics and compliance program,
that was not involved in the Safety Risk Assessments.

@OP+1tOhB4cN

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Post ID: @cdx+1u07x20w

Can we start with you?

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Post ID: @tna+1u07x20w

I think you're lucky the company doesn't conduct random dr-g testing

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Post ID: @qbt+1u07x20w

Victims become the abused at Boeing. It is a very sick environment.

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