Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

@cckt+1n94bXYz: Anyone can buy 1 share of ORCL and be a shareholder, so calling yourself a shareholder as virtually no importance whatsoever.

Then, when you said: "Way too many white, entitled, overpriced tech workers on this board."... do you realize that many US citizens are not white? Do you realize that there are white people on H-1Bs?

Should we grab a whiteboard and draw a Venn diagram for you explaining the difference between immigration/citizenship status, race, income level tiers, etc? By failing to grasp something so fundamentally basic you demonstrated having no common sense whatsoever, which immediately makes me doubt about your cognitive capabilities.

Oracle, like many other companies, use the H-1B program to fill positions quicker and to have more leverage over employees. What the company pays an H-1B is a fraction of the money involved in hiring an H-1B. You also need immigration attorneys and other extra expenses.

@cckt+1n94bXYz is yet another one of those heartless, cold SOBs who should be thrown to the wolves. I knew many people like that at Oracle. So very glad I got out of the Oracle infernal pit when I did. And I pity any US citizen who's chosen to stay there.

Way too many white, entitled, overpriced tech workers on this board. As an Oracle shareholder I feel obligated to warn you that you will be replaced sooner rather than later. This sounds harsh but is due to the basic economics of running an acquisition company like Oracle, where pricy "talent" is not needed to keep the train on the tracks. The current stock price is proof of this fact.

Do yourself a favor. If you are actually talented then find another job elsewhere before you are riffed. Riffs are not a question of "if", but a question of "when".

H1Bs are the shareholders' friends here. If you decide not to act on that knowledge then accept the consequences.

Regardless of your race, if you worked your bu-t off for a company and the company comes and replaces you with someone cheaper and less experience, after all you put in; I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t be offended. If you’re not offended (and I say this with everything being equal skill wise), then you’re not human. If you’re just like “that’s life”, you’re exactly what oracle wants. Someone who will just jump in a grave and pull dirt on themselves. I also think this is hard cause maybe tech workers who are building software as part of a team and it going through so many iterations and releases, the tasks become blurry. The goals become vague. And to hear someone say arrogance in tech means you aren’t a decent human being must’ve never been in contact with sales. Hahaah. The most arrogant people I came across were people expecting me to know an answer that I never had any experience in even knowing and god forbid I ask the high and mighty developer. Granted at my last company, the sales people were the bad ones time and time again and the dev folks were great.

H1Bs, Ho hum. The "gift" that keeps on "giving," just say goodbye to more lost jobs for Americans.

@2jwt+1n94bXYz: Do you see that red zigzag under what you just wrote? It's a typo, fix it. Everyone is tired of reading your typos and dealing with them. It's a sign of indifference and disrespect. Nobody wants to be infected with your indifference. People want to work at a place where people care about what they do.

Stop treating every input box as a dumpster and start writing properly.

Generative AI will take care of it.

If what you sell is crystallized intelligence, your job will be redundant in less than 5 years. So there's not much to worry about.

@2jwt+1n94bXYz - I am saying this as someone who learned English as a second language: You have a good total compensation, good for you. But the way you express yourself won't take you very far here.

It is not only the typos, the bad punctuation, grammar and capitalization, which tells the reader that you didn't even bother reading what you wrote.

It is the arrogance, lack of empathy, and all signs associated with a lack of maturity and narcissism. Which in the end makes you look as a childish and insecure person whose entire identity is about your title and your total compensation.

And let me tell you something else: people with your personality type have an ego trip during their 20s-30s, make a lot of money, but because of your arrogance your spouse likely will divorce you, keep your house, your car, your kids, get alimony and child support for you, and your 250k+ compensation will go straight to your wife's new family.

You and your loud toxic mouth will be thrown to the street and you'll live on what's left after the child support, alimony which will be nothing. And then you would have wished to be a decent person, but you can't because your entire identity is being a software engineer, not a good human being.

Expose

This is just not arrogance. This is absolute belief that someone is superior to another based on where they come from.

We’ll see more and more H1B “consultants” at Oracle now.

Plus, more offshore teams transitioning work from onshore. Working from home proved we could work from anywhere, so might as well move as much as possible to the cheapest location. That’s how they think.

When Oracle throws you under the bus after giving the company a decade or more of your career and hard work, and yet the company continues to hire these largely weak-skilled Indian H1Bs, and then having us train them before we get RIF'd -- Well sorry to tell you this, but IT IS PERSONAL!