Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

We are being too hard on Dan Schulman

Maybe we have been too hard on Dan. He has been walking a tightrope since he entered the role. Verizon is struggling as a company, and you can’t expect leadership to be fully transparent because that could create panic and trigger a stock selloff. That’s bad for everyone, especially when you are carrying around $175 billion in debt and backed heavily by institutional investors.

A lot of those institutional investors are tied to retirement accounts, pensions, city employees, and everyday people. A company like Verizon stumbling would not just affect telecom, it could shake confidence across the market. Imagine a major telecom provider, something most people view as a basic utility at this point, struggling to sustain itself. Rational people would immediately start asking what other companies are being held together by perception instead of fundamentals.

I genuinely feel for the employees and managers carrying the pressure right now, but some of what we are seeing may be the result of years of bad positioning, losing market share, and delayed course correction. None of this happens overnight.


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Post ID: @OP+1ktx23ssz

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@cx Wrrrrrrrong! Dan will get it to $75 one way or another! Watch and see!

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Post ID: @jn+1ktx23ssz

@az We can only hope! HCL s-cks.

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Post ID: @jm+1ktx23ssz

@ca Verizon stock with never see $75 unless they reverse stock split.

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Post ID: @cx+1ktx23ssz

@c6 Yep, he gets $30 Million.

Now compare that to the $20 Million "reskilling" fund that he generously set up to be split among the 13,000 he fired. (that comes to $1,538 per fired employee)

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Post ID: @cf+1ktx23ssz

@c6 the upside for him is actually more than 200M if he stays until the end of 2027 and inflates the stock to $75

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Post ID: @ca+1ktx23ssz

Too hard on Dan? So the $30M regardless of results + an upside of $75M+ if he squeezes us hard enough to goose the stock price above $75 is not enough for him? We also should feel bad?
Come on, Dan, turn off the OpenClaw agent you had your admin implement to astroturf this forum. This is embarrassing.
Dan is a clueless clown with only one job. Cut as hard and as deep as possible, without impacting results in the short term. He gives no sh-t where we are 18 months from now because he'll be spending more time with all his money in Montana while someone else gets to figure out how to make things work.
And all the BS about blaming Hans... he reported to the Board (which Dan was on) every quarter. Every major decision was approved by the board. Every d-mb a-s acquisition, every id--tic price-up, every part of the strategy was reviewed and approved.

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Post ID: @c6+1ktx23ssz

Dan is complicit in this mess. Years of strategic failures, questionable M&A, product flops... the BOARD was onboard with all of it. The only constant was the joke of a leadership team got very rich, the stock went sideways or worse and headcount has been halved.

Think about just one example of these bungling fools..Da-o Scootti walked away after making $60M+ over 8 years... for a new logo, S M L pricing, pastel colors and grandstanding LGBTQ.

Oh guess what, he's at PayPal now.

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Post ID: @c5+1ktx23ssz

@be Clearly things are being lined up for a sale, carve-up or merger. When they're down to not buying toilet paper, pushing out the invoice payments term as far as possible and pushing employees to use up vacation (because unused vacation is a liability on the books) then they're trying to make the books look as inflated as they can come the time of whatever transaction is in the works.

(seen all this before, been there, got the t-shirt from accounting)

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Post ID: @bq+1ktx23ssz

@az "down the pan" - wth does that mean? 🤔

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Post ID: @bh+1ktx23ssz

Get back under the table Sam

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Post ID: @bg+1ktx23ssz

@b9 OMG, hans was a m@r@n, nobody could understand him on CNBC. Bo bye and we welcome DAN to drain the swamp

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Post ID: @bf+1ktx23ssz

@OP lol, your thesis is mental: we are being too hard on Schulman. Seriously, that guy is a hired actor playing his role of the CEO (quite poorly) while his McKinsey/PayPal gang is preparing the company for divestitures and a possible carve-out because of the mountain of debt. This is not only Hans' doing, this is a primary responsibility of the board which Dan was part of. The BOD should be immediately replaced.

Dan is old, spent, lacks any spark or vision, clueless about AI which a ruse for the layoffs anyway because the management is incompetent and incapable of devising a true growth strategy. So all what they are able to do is cut, cut, cut in a desperate attempt to lower expenses and refinance the debt.

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Post ID: @be+1ktx23ssz

He was on the board when Hans was CEO…enough said

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Post ID: @b9+1ktx23ssz

The original post reads like a rah-rah dissertation by some hopeful incumbent PR person. Mainly what I read on this board is unsatisfied Vz employees. I was riffed, still bitter ... but glad I am out of the toxic Vz environment (seems to be trending downward still).

The rumor about HCL tech not being renewed is interesting. That was a disaster plan from the beginning and not executed well. I was in the middle of it. The future will be fascinating.

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Post ID: @b8+1ktx23ssz

@az HCL are so embedded now that’ll be a colossal undertaking to pivot away from them. They are really poor though so I hope that is true!

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Post ID: @b1+1ktx23ssz

@az
" I hear rumors that HCLs contract will not be renewed next year"

Where did you hear that? I work with a number of HCL staff and if that is true then I need to start planning.

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Post ID: @b0+1ktx23ssz

Rubbish. The guy is ki-ling us. I hear rumors that HCLs contract will not be renewed next year, so another round of training up contractors to no end. Company is going down the pan, so get out while you still can to get the payoff.

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Post ID: @az+1ktx23ssz

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