Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Ah the infamous feather bedding period.
If you give my wife +2% I will give your nephew +2%.
I once had an LL5’s mistress working for me. Every year her increase was goosed up by our LL5 at her married LL5’s request.

@cs+1kkdbtp7q Not true. The PDFs can be printed once the amounts are decided upon by the group. The amounts are often changed by some LL6-LL5-> after that point. The LL5 will send an all clear email at which point the PDFs are usually emailed.

The overriding point is that SGs want to believe raises are fair and equitable and many LL* blame HR for the raises their SGs received. In reality it is the LL5 and the LL6s (not necessarily your LL6) that caused your raise to be lower than your peers. But lets keep the games hidden from the SGs.

@cs Were you one of the people benefitting from the back door deals / illicit spreadsheet editing? Yeah the whole point of the post game process is to benefit the FnF and the weasels. Once they realize you aren’t a patsy they take their games elsewhere.

@c8, nice story but you aren’t the hero you claim to be. Increase “letters”, ie., the PDF we print or forward are not released until the merit decisions are completed and closed. There is no way merit can change within this process once the notifications are released.

What @c6 says is mostly true with the wrinkle that LL6s are grouped into a working group where they must rank all their employees collectively. Part of this is presenting and defending their employees. Then there is voting. Pre-meeting many of the LL6s make deals with each other to vote for specific SG and speak against other SG. The ranking impacts $.

LL6s fight for the coveted spot of working group chairman as they control the spreadsheet and can re-disperse $ after the committee agrees upon the $ distributions.
I had a weasel LL6 pull this stunt on me once - He moved $ from my SGs to his SGs post meeting and sent me an email telling me the had LL5 told him to. The next year I handed out the increase letters to my SGs post meeting. When he again told me the LL5 had removed $, I said oh no, I thought the $ were decided and gave my SGs their increase letters already What ever shall I do? Should I contact our HR rep? He never tried to pull that stunt on me again. He did however pull the stunt on others.

It's simple,

• LL6 is given a pool of money apparently from HR directly for their entire team -- it almost always is not enough to give everyone 'enough to max out' (see next bullet).
• LL6 is given an option to adjust numbers given allowance allocated within a range by HR. The story your are given and it appears to be true enough is this is performance, place in grade, and salary band.
• LL5 and LL6s meet; set expectations for each performance and any special circumstances (these days this means LL5 says what LL4 expects if they know it; or they guess if not. LL4s try to balance expectations across all their LL5s unless some team did exceptional (this is norm at least).
• LL5 takes money away from some LL6's pools to give to other LL6's pool. Maybe also reserve a bit for sharing with LL4's pool if they already know parameters needed there.
• LL6 does best they can to reward individuals with what's left. IF they can't meet HR minimums LL5 rating expectations with pool they then they go back to LL5 and again team pools are adjusted either from LL4 downwards (rarely); or taken from an LL6 that could spare a bit and still meet minimums and performance goals.

That is the process. In reality it cycles through this process a few times until LL4 and all LL5s are not fighting amongst each other anymore (often they still want too, but that would mean harsh consequences).

You get the end result. In effect your money (merit or bonus doesn't matter) goes to make merit and bonuses for the higher ups and the beloved. Those may exceed or at least get top of HR ranges. HR ranges typically are fairly decent at the high end. Thus, they are unfairly abysmal at the low end.

They'll never tell their secret formula. Its a big mystery so they can do whatever they feel like and don't have to be held accountable for what they end up deciding. Everytime I ask how it's all figured they can't explain it. I contested mine, talked to HR, they said PPL leaders decide. PPL leaders say HR decides. LL5 has to go to LL4. I mean who the flip knows how this company operates their pay structures. I can say this Farley and his pals will be doing JUST fine financially.

I was told that I got Exceed, but I only got 3.5% of raise and my bonus percentage is the same as my teammate who got Met. Is my manager sc--wing me over?