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Cisco AI Summit a success, more job losses ahead?

Transition to AI or get purged, was this the Fran message….


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@jn
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Did I miss a level of this flat org?

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Post ID: @wj+1kgmh06t5

Most FLMs at Cisco don't have a clue. They are just engineers that somehow got a promotion. I spent most of my career at Cisco reporting to Dirs/VPs, and even alot of them were pretty worthless (but damn good at politics).

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Post ID: @mw+1kgmh06t5

I look forward to the future threads here: "Why is the AI not giving me the raise I deserve?" Or, "why doesn't the Director not appreciate what I do?" (keep in mind the Dir is now your FLM and has 50+ direct reports). "Why don't we get rid of the Dirs because they are completely useless as a FLM?"

It's pretty clear that those of you in the 'let AI replace FLMs' crowd aren't really thinking this through. And maybe the poor thinking illustrated here also afflicts you in other areas of your life, which is why you s-u-c-k.

Plus, Cisco is already relatively flat compared to other business of similar size. There's little to zero chance you'll ever see AI replace FLMs at Cisco.

(Skeletor voice) Remember: If you think the problem is always someone else, it means you are the problem.

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Post ID: @jn+1kgmh06t5

@b3+1kgmh06t5 hilariously enough - those front line managers dealing with the over paid, arrogant engineers, yep those managers have your existence at cisco in their hands. Better yet is they are going through the drill now, so an arrogant loud mouth that doesn't have the technical skills they fool their selves into believing should be worried. I would say that number is probably close to 80% that have no business making what they do so if you are an overrated loud mouth, you can bet you are on the cusp of a well deserved unemployment letter.

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Post ID: @jh+1kgmh06t5

Was it a success? The conversations felt very surface level at best. Sam was visibility pi---d but that is because his company is a dumpster fire right now. Jeetu was confidently talking about 10M people watching online, the YouTube counter was showing 70K. Very large difference

Overall it was still a good branding event, more personal vs. company

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Post ID: @f5+1kgmh06t5

What Francine was doing up there I don't understand. At best she's the HR leader despite her title, I saw it as her parroting other people.

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Post ID: @ej+1kgmh06t5

@b3

Exactly. And what will these people do next? Their technical skills have atrophied. They never had any strategic oversight as first-level-managers. They do nothing more than hold stand-ups, 1:1s, and hover over Jira. They are unhirable post-Cisco.

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Post ID: @ds+1kgmh06t5

@c0

So what you're saying is....stop documenting anything to prevent the AI from learning it.

That should be easy, in Eng, we stopped documenting anything 10 years ago.

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Post ID: @c4+1kgmh06t5

@a5 Unless you have some specialized knowledge that is not documented somewhere AI doesn't need your training.

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Post ID: @c0+1kgmh06t5

The easiest to replace with AI are the first line managers
They usually handle staffing and approvals, training compliance. logistics, communication, mostly bullsh-t that does not require skills or a 200K per year salary.
If you read behind lines, the skill matrix (resource profile) for example is meant to make it easy for AI to assign people to projects.

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Post ID: @b3+1kgmh06t5

AI is not useful unless trained. After you train it, you become redundant. Press for a significant bump in pay if you're expected to train AI. Your negotiating position will never be better. Bank your increase, begin job search. You'll still lose your job, but on your terms. Don't be sheeple.

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