Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

@zt - just because you did not get a letter does not mean no letters went out. I personally know half a dozen people who received them Friday.

Also virtual.
No letter.

Ya’ll so full of sh-t trying to troll people because you’re miserable you have to commute.

Get over it.

@qr this makes too much sense, and stink would have to admit he was wrong so it won’t happen. If it ever does it will be done quietly

Why not just compensate and let the actual RTO folks work virtual one or two days a week to compensate for the lengthy commute and gas prices? What is the big deal as it may actually improve morale which is so low at this point with all the shenanigans.

“ Anyway ,third and last - Virtual workers supposedly got letters yesterday“

Virtual here.

No letter received. Legg org. My team is still spread across the country. Most are FTO, having to report 5 x 8 to the closest “acceptable” office location. Handful of us more than 50 miles from one of those are still virtual.

I’m sure they will send a letter at some point, but guessing that will be to the whole team telling them position is moving to Dallas. Or maybe we can hold out until Plano.

I’m retirement eligible so I’m retiring once I get that letter.

@dj MS is not 5 days. Its 3 days because their excuse is they go to the field etc..but the 2 people under MS in our team telecommute 5 days a week.

The issue is the inconsistency. Why are some people being asked to be uproot their entire lives, while a few others get a free pass..

I was virtual from 2009 till they got the rto. Luckily I'm in a hub. However there are a few in our org who are in non hubs and never got to rto. They are not indispensable.. yes the knowledge transfer will take a bit. But its natural as part of any transition.. they are clearly being held as is because they are favorites..

First - it’s not a COBC violation to certain orgs to have approval for some virtual workers. (See the post by @h9 )
Second - not sure why so many people think ‘work’, especially in a large organization, is supposed to fit nicely into your own ideas of comfort and fairness - didn’t you ever hear the age old saying ‘life isn’t fair’?
And the ridiculous post on here about ‘women not having privacy’ is especially telling…privacy?? If the bathrooms didn’t have doors I’d agree but my goodness , why would you expect ‘privacy’ ??

Anyway ,third and last - Virtual workers supposedly got letters yesterday. Not sure how many or what they say yet, but don’t worry- the machine comes for everyone. Hopefully instead of satisfaction, you can feel compassion for those faced with a difficult choice.

It sounds like you’re saying being virtual gives employees an edge that in-office employees simply don’t have.

Almost like…..it’s more productive?
Crazy.

I’m virtual because I have a set of skills to company wants.
They did ask me to move, I said “no, I’ll resign” and my AD said “yeah that’s not happening” I made it clear I have a few million in stock and don’t need the job, no debt.

I’ll quit and not even worry about it, I legit don’t care.

So they gave me virtual so I’d stay.

Simple as that.

If they take it away, I’ll leave and go elsewhere.

@e8

All I can tell you is these arrangements were written up in detail, reviewed, rewritten and reviewed again over a period of months. In the Legg org anyway.

First off the JOB was written up as to whether it was collaborative or not and its criticality to the business. Then the person in the job.

"I'm going to protect this guy because I like him" was not something that would have flown.

Stop posting about virtual employees.
no one cares what you think or how you feel about someone’s occupancy indicator. you must be part of the everyone gets a trophy generation. - Most virtuals have a unique skill set or working on a specialized area of the business.

This is the issue that keeps you up? I have been virtual since 2010. Will get my letter soon. Just focus on yourself and life will be better. Hope your day gets better friend.

@dr I know a virtual who is not financially in a good spot nor is he good at his job. He’s scared he’ll get the email everyday. Maybe he already did.

“ @dc yes it is a force move when they say either move or you will be terminated in x number of days..”

You don’t know what “forced” means, do you?

This is really much simpler than anyone makes it. "Needs of the business." There are people in the company who have specific skills in T-specific stuff, who are financially able to quit at any time and will if forced to move.

And these people have management chains who understand this even though you don't.

Fair's got nothing to do with it, nor should it.

@dc yes it is a force move when they say either move or you will be terminated in x number of days. One can always say then don’t - but we never accepted jobs in Dallas when I acccepted my job it was Remote and in a different state. Same job and role for over 10 years with exceeds ratings. So yes it forced.

@da how many days is MS? I am MS and the presence report counts me against 5 days presence. MS is 5 days.

"I HATE MY AT&T LIFE." OK, resign and let those of us that need a job continue without the crying and moaning

“ AT&T forced moved hundreds with their HUB strategy and many still have local offices yet forced to moved thousands of miles to TX DFW or ATL.“

No one is forced to move anywhere.
Stop with the drama.

Its not even the remote work, some are still doing the hybrid. Heck, under my org, same director, some are 5 days, others are MS

I HATE MY AT&T LIFE.

Nothing is being done fairly. Why should some employees have to make the decision to move across the continent just to join the same Teams calls they did before? The customers they support didn’t pick up and move with them.

Why should contractors get to work from home?

Why should virtual workers have to spend more hours working at home to get ahead?

Why should commuters have to commute?

Why should I have to go to an office to sit by a person who constantly yells on all their calls and then interrupts coworkers because they need to have their hand held for their job? Why can’t the person who bothers me at work be fired for making me less productive?

Why is the chili in the cafe never vegan?

Why can’t I bring my emotional support boa constrictor to work?

Why did some orgs go back first and others didn’t go for years?

Why is 8-5 standard but it never means you can go home at 5 because another time zone is setting up another Teams call?

Just saying. We all have a b..hpoint.

File your COBC.
Chances are there’s something you’re doing that doesn’t seem fair to somebody else.

What does being virtual have anything to do with having an office within 50 miles. AT&T forced moved hundreds with their HUB strategy and many still have local offices yet forced to moved thousands of miles to TX DFW or ATL.

Virtuals are favorites. They ain't going anywhere. If the company was consistent. They would have been the first to rto.

@bp

I can confirm that because I patch once or twice a month at night that I was not impacted by RTO . That work was never shifted to the "follow the sun" model , where our workforce in India would do the work.

We were told in the Torretta group that our remote office people didn't need to worry about the RTO if we had not already been impacted, and that our group would not have to worry about any more layoffs for the year.

Needs to happen today.

I love my virtual peers but they have a demonstrable advantage over me - I spend 10 hours a week getting to/from work and they do not. They can spend that extra time doing work and getting ahead. It's an unfair advantage.

Only sensible remedy is to base virtual status on job description (and not proximity to a hub).

Someone mentioned it below. Folks still virtual are still needed. In most cases, we simply do not have an office within 50 miles to report to. In my case, I “had” an office I would report to within 50 miles of my home before all of this, but it was closed right as this nonsense was ramping up, and CRE was closing office spaces at the same time Leadership decided they were going to force everyone back in (even those that weren’t FTO before).

So, I go to an office 100 miles away once a month.

I’m sorry that makes you angry. I find that kind of weird to be honest.

Your hyper fixation on this says WAY more about you than you know. I can only imagine how inept you are at your job. The good thing is you’ll probably be laid off before the virtuals you so despise. That ought to really get you going….LOL

@by

So either you are talking out of your a-s, or you are so disengaged with your own work that you have time to track what other employees are doing.

Which is it?

@by "Virtual employees dominate the pickle ball games with all the extra practice at the work week"

So you're just mad that you are going to get your a-s kicked in the new Plano location which Stank has said will have Pickle Ball courts! Grow a pair and don't be such a psychopant bootlicker.

Virtual employees dominate the pickle ball games with all the extra practice at the work week

OP Why are you so concerned about how others work?

Many of them are needed for specific functions for a short amount of time. The company is using the virtual tag as leverage to get them to work nights on call or software cuts. Basically whatever extra work they’re willing to do it to retain the virtual. In addition they don’t have a team anywhere nearby. Personally I’m all for making them report in office like rest of us.