Obviously a tiny part but heard that a Director and 2 AM’s got tagged earlier this week. Speculation is one of the AM’s got hit to save the Director a spot. When level bumping is being discussed it usually means things are getting real.
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@a4 , d@mn straight!
@f0 Nope, I was in California, FTW to Dallas, and my Diretor and AVP are still in Atlanta. I am now to hours closer in time zone, but they still can't find the time to have a 1 on 1! No communication outside the weekly meetings. They'll find the time if they decide to show me the door :-)
@dy nope many high functioning teams have managed just fine spread apart for decades. This is simply you parroting things you have read
@br Director's and AD's should at least be located with their teams. "Follow The Work"
You have a point since the one of the main objectives for RTO was collaboration with your team. It's playing against this plan to have the decsision makers in a different location and time zone, never working face to face.
D-mb take- there are more than 13 times as many L1s than L2 - there are not as many L3s as you think either. Cutting half is untenable at this time.
Have had many Directors in my career. Never cared where they were located. Even when they were located in the same location I very seldom saw or spoke with them. Seems we have enough issues without worrying about or trying to level a playing field that has no direct benefit or bearing on my day to day job.
Jennifer Griesinger’s Team is an example of Directors not being located with their teams.
We gotta pay for Stankeys 1.5 billion dollar pickle ball campus in Plano somehow.
Director's and AD's should at least be located with their teams. "Follow The Work" was supposed to do that but there are still directors and AD's in Atlanta that have a good portion of their teams in the "Mothership" locations (Dallas/Plano). AT&T needs to have all VP's and AVP's in Dallas unless they are part of a regional, customer facing organization.
“ Directors are definitely being impacted this round.”. Have been through a few of these in the past. Wonder how many of the mid level people being hit didn’t want to or plan to leave. In the past some had already negotiated their release date for the transition well before they left.
It’s musical chairs and when the music stops there won’t be enough seats to go around!!
Having a “management” degree is one thing…It’s the Directors who don’t even have a degree … anyway, if you can’t prove the level bumping, no one is going to do anything anyway. And even if you do have proof, no one’s probably going to do anything either.. They know how to play the “system”
@av Management degrees? You are being generous.
Half the directors and avps are a joke. You see tons of them holding technology titles with management degrees.. I bet they have not written a single line of code in their life. Its a travesty that they are technology leaders.. like the op said you fire 70 percent of them and things will work fine..
I'm skeptical , if you haven't noticed a lot of the AM's are DEI protected class by design. The derpa-derpas only hire their own, and are nested in fairly good. If you whacked about 70% of the Level 3's you might be on to something.
We need to cut 50%+ at the L2 level and 70% L3s. Its high time already.
Directors are definitely being impacted this round.
@OP One of the AMs may have been hit in order for the Director to drop down to an AM role if reducing Director headcount.
it is real. Mid June letters for last day on payroll 7/1. That’s the next round for management — all levels.
they could reduce 70% director and up and the company would run more smooth.
Cuts are needed at all levels.