I share many of the same laments and nostalgia and sadness in the comments here. Seems like we've covered everything. But just wondering what is going relatively well lately. Working at a customer site now, and will be investing in an upgrade. Hoping it goes well for us and also for our ex-colleagues.
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I was @bqoz+1raKzfwu
It was not my intention to be condescending, and I apologize if it came across that way.
The point I was trying to make was that as a "fairly new employee" (as you put it) it's all too easy to get caught up in the corporate messaging during your induction process, and the hype of kick-off, to be led to believe things are in much better shape than they are. I was guilty of that for several of the last years that I worked at SAS. I really wanted to still believe in SAS's future. That thought process, held me back from making the move away from SAS that in hindsight I should have done sooner than I did.
I'd just encourage you to question the corporate narrative, listen to what SAS's customers are saying, look at what SAS is competing against, consider what innovation SAS is doing, and come to your own conclusions. If you do that, I'd be surprised if you remain confident in the future of the organization.
https://cheezburger.com/24770565/we-are-all-mercenaries-act-like-it-cold-blooded-company-fires-employee-on-their-2-year-anniversary
@bqoz+1raKzfwu “Big difference”
That was enlightening. Thanks so much.
There is also a big difference between adding value to a conversation and being condescending to someone else’s post.
I get the irony of this reply being on the wrong side of the line.
@bntu+1raKzfwu
"I’m seeing these issues being addressed and corrected"
Are you really seeing these issues being addressed first hand, or are you being told that these issues are being addressed? Big difference.
Tbh, I’ve just now stumbled upon this site. I’ve gone through many of the threads and understand the topics of conversation. I will say, as a fairly new employee, I’m seeing these issues being addressed and corrected. Maybe not as fast or as extensive as some would like, however, I still feel confident in the future of the organization.
To @auc+1raKzfwu, just wondering:
- how many hours do you work each day?
- is your work remote or onsite? any travel?
- how much time in meetings vs coding?
Anxiously awaiting the good news from those still inside the company who are not drawing the huge paychecks that directors and VPs are getting ... any minute now ...
You overlooked @gzl+1raKzfwu and @riy+1raKzfwu
Anxiously awaiting the good news from those still inside the company who are not drawing the huge paychecks that directors and VPs are getting ... any minute now ...
All the positive comments coming from people who have left, so I'll add another. Left SAS and now at Salesforce. It's a ruthless organization but work is interesting, relevant, and the pay is 50% higher.
“I’m 65 and work as an independent consultant since laid off at SAS. My work is varied and consistent. All SAS 9 legacy code that requires a good amount of experience blue haired people like me have”
This is great to hear. I’m just a bit older, recently laid off, a SAS programmer since the 80s. I don’t need to work, but really miss coding - maybe I’ll give it a shot
There's something to your observations. After leaving SAS, things got done. I relearned that I am a valid, skilled, and capable individual who can complete projects without a problem. There was a sense of accomplishment. I never felt that at SAS, it felt like a pointless Sisyphean slog and a dance full of bizarro characters.
"It’s a good life outside #saslife firewall."
Yeah, I second that. My life since I left SAS has vastly improved. I don't get lectured about not giving my "discretionary effort" to the company, and no one expects me to be an unpaid "brand ambassador" or to "participate" in social media ("on your own time!") to fluff SAS or its fortunes.
And, of course, as an added bonus I no longer have to deal with the toxic management environment or rampant favoritism!
I’m 65 and work as an independent consultant since laid off at SAS. My work is varied and consistent. All SAS 9 legacy code that requires a good amount of experience blue haired people like me have. I didn’t realize how unhappy I was with the daily grind at SAS where little got accomplished. So what’s going very well is I’m happier since I was laid off after 34 years. It’s a good life outside #saslife firewall.
@gzl+1raKzfwu Luckily we don't have Russian customers any more amiright? ;)
I am in my 60s and still like helping our customers.
Still at SAS at 57 - earn every cent of my paycheck and love my job. Thanks for a positive topic!