Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

“ not taking any actions” game

One of the things I really miss about corporate life is playing the “which, if you’re unfamiliar with it, is where you go to meetings with the express intent of taking zero actions whatsoever. And if you’re thinking, what is this corporate lingo, then an action is something that you actually have to do. And you might think, “Well, isn’t that the whole point of work, that you actually get stuff done?” To which I would say, “No, foolishness!” You’re too busy attending meetings at which you’re avoiding actions to actually have time to do anything.

So how do you avoid taking any actions? Well, you might think, maybe just don’t show up to the meeting, which would be a terrible strategy, because then the people at the meeting will give you all of the actions, and you hear about it later. So that’s a rookie mistake. There are a variety of strategies for avoiding taking actions, one of which is to just remain perfectly still. This is the Jurassic Park approach. You hope that if you just don’t move, the dinosaur won’t see you, like this. But sadly, the dinosaurs often do spot you, so it’s not a good strategy.

A much better strategy is to constantly be positive in meetings and compliment people, saying things like, “That’s a really great idea!”, “I just wanted to double down on that point…”, “I completely agree!” or “Let me just build on that…”, because that gives people the impression that you’re contributing to the meeting without actually contributing anything.

There is a risk, though, that at some point an action will start to come your way. You need to spot that and head it off quite quickly. You do that by saying things like, “We’re just so busy right now,” or “My team just don’t have the bandwidth,” or even a kind of inferred threat where you say, “We’d have to deprioritize some of our strategically aligned work.” That usually stops them.

You might think that leaders of these meetings would get very frustrated with everybody avoiding taking actions, but they don’t, generally, because that’s how they got where they are, by being very good at giving the impression that they’re doing something whilst at the same time not actually doing anything whatsoever. And I know you’ve got this lingering suspicion: in that case, how does any work actually get done? Well, good question.

The answer is, you give it to somebody else to do. If you have budget, you lodge that with a third party, a vendor, who can actually do the doing, and then you take the credit for the doing. But if you don’t have budget, then you just kind of moan incessantly about not having sufficient budget. “My team doesn’t have enough budget.” “We just don’t have the budget to get anything done this year.” That ensures that you can continue attending meetings where you avoid taking any actions but nevertheless give the impression that you’re actually doing work.


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Post ID: @OP+1k9xtvs71

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Managers don't "own" anything here. At first you think this is cool. But with a lack of ownership comes a lack of a valid form of acknowledgment. I never was able to figure out how bonuses were calculated here. We all know that at WF the pay was good but the culture su..cked. With a lack of ownership there comes a lack of accountability. So your team designs and creates a new xyz system. Other managers and/or your boss claim ownership without telling you. You find out later they get the bonus and/or raise. In another case (and another manager because of a reorg) , they find something missing in your delivery, correct it with another person and then they both claim the whole system theirs. It will be nice when the system, via AI, owns the system. Your design, your effort your work will be evaluated fairly. The machine doesn't play games. It knows your inputs, your prompts, your generation, your design. I can't wait to be mentored and evaluated by an agentic AI manager. All these players and their games and inefficiencies will be gone.

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Post ID: @k7+1k9xtvs71

Spot-on @bg. The managers are the ones mastering the “no-action” meta-game, while ICs (the ones who actually design, code, test, integrate) get axed first. It’s musical chairs with the deck stacked: managers shuffle priorities, demand Azure certs (how many actually passed?), then vanish into “strategic alignment” meetings. ICs? Laid off mid-sprint.
When an action finally drifts toward a manager—“We’re slammed,” “No bandwidth,” “We’d have to deprioritize OKRs”—the next move is predictable:

Beg for headcount (“We need two more FTEs or this fails”).
Buy a shiny vendor tool (“We’ll adopt [Gartner Magic Quadrant Leader] to accelerate”).
Outsource to contractors (“Onshore or Offshore partner owns delivery”).

Outcome? If it ships, manager takes credit. If it craters, “Vendor under-delivered,” “Contractors missed SLAs,” “Tool wasn’t enterprise-grade.” Zero accountability.

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Post ID: @gp+1k9xtvs71

Juicy

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Post ID: @c1+1k9xtvs71

It’s odd, I see more of these types sticking around than the ones doing the work. Either the latter get laid off or get disgusted and leave. Either way, if you stay you’ll likely end up playing this game sooner or later for your own mental health I bet

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Post ID: @bg+1k9xtvs71

And thats why people keep getting let go. Too many people doing absolutely nothing to the degree that they apparently have hours to compose posts online about how little they actually have to do every day.

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Post ID: @bf+1k9xtvs71

There are people in marketing who have this down to science. Except that in my group, agreeing with the ECD and backing him up in meetings IS doing something. Something important. The trick is leaving the meeting without any assigned tasks. So you make sure to praise and double down on someone else’s ideas and subtly backpedal your own, so the other person ends up responsible for next steps while you come across as enthusiastic and engaged. It’s an art form.

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