Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Go to office @ 7:00 am. Leave office at 7:05…..

Go home.

Come back at 2:55, badge in.

Leave at 3:00

First badge in 7:00 am
Last badge out 3:00 pm

Calculated time in office: 8 hours

Actual time in office: 10 minutes

@cj it looks at first swipe in and last swipe out each day and does the math, from my understanding.

@be+1k7ybwg2f

No, what causes HY to clamp down harder is insufficient voluntary attrition numbers. It's all they care about.

if daycare calls and you need to pick up your kid then you send and IM/email to your manager to get their approval for you to leave early and you will be fine. Unless you are leaving early every day I wouldn't worry too much about it. the reporting and flagging is taking the average over many weeks so leaving a few hours early once in a while will likely not trigger anything.

It’s easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Pretend you’re in a court of law. Prepare your arguments and rebuttals. Figure out how to game the system. Look for loopholes in the system.
Keep in mind that you’re here to make as much money as possible. Your personal time and your family come first.
Doesn’t matter how many awards you’ve achieved over the years in this company. When it’s your time to go, you’re not gonna get the gold watch. you’ll be shown the door without any fanfare.
Keeping all this in mind, when you are here in this company, be all that you can be. Because you’re doing it for yourself and self-respect.
But beware, if you’re supervisor, gives any indication that you’re not an exceptional team member, start looking for that next position under another supervisor.
Finally, since this company is now severely micromanaging by counting badge timestamps and network activity, this is not where you want to work. Think about it. You’re not a grunt. You’re a professional. If you have any self-respect, look for the company that wants you to excel without nitpicking.

@cj If this is a serious question the the first answer regarding building changes is : Who cares?

IF YOU HAVE A VALID REASON TO BE DOING XYZ THEN KEEP DOING IT UNTIL TOLD NOT TO!

Simple as that. At my site the gym is one building over, cafeteria in another. Walking paths where I go outside for breaks. People are far too caught up in all the WhatIfs to the point that they are simply probing to try to figure out how to game it or haven’t learned the more questions you ask the more answers you get. And that’s rarely a good thing.

Re childcare, come on. PTO or you win the lottery and have to pick another day to go into the office. Simple as that.

How does it work if you’re walking to different buildings and needing to badge out of one and then badge into another? How does the reporting capture that? Also what if daycare calls?? The first year of daycare is brutal but in the past you just grab your kid and take the calls while they are sick.

@bd The report could just use last network time - not sure why this needs to be explained. My original question was rhetorical

My point ✈️ you😄

resistance and gaming doesn't get anyone anywhere, it just makes leadership clamp down harder.

it's been this way since the start of RTO -and it will continue.

@b7 asks "why would it use badge out if not all buildings had it .. makes no sense"

leaving time is later of the two: badge out OR leave network

if there's no badge out - it's the time you disconnect from the network.

why does that not make sense?

@ah why would it use badge out if not all buildings had it .. makes no sense

I would use AI to learn the log in or out patterns, automate your work, and act as your proxy. Wells Fargo is an ineffectual organization that first damaged clients and now pursues workers. And no, they will not succeed. Failing or inept organizations often resort to intimidation and scare tactics so it's up to all of you to fight back.

@ah well said!
I’m hoping to be gone by then..

I see both reports:

they are BOTH based on badging and network

• attendance reports use both so if someone has to use a guest badge (lost, left at home, etc) their presence in a WF building is still recorded. it's an either-or. The attendance reports also look at PTO and travel (I.e. you travel to see clients or suppliers but don't log into a WF location)
• the hours calculation looks at first badge-in and first network connection of the day for time into office. (yes the badging system does have a timestamp). Then last connection time and badge-out (if your building has it) and takes the later of the two. It excludes PTO days (so the 4 hours=1 day of PTO thing doesnt affect it), holidays, travel days - it's purely "on the days you were in the physical office, when did you enter and when did you leave"

Right now the guidance is to speak with people not in compliance (and are far below 8 hrs) and document in workday. then if they don't show change in behavior over the following several weeks, move to formal corrective actions.

This is a similar path that was followed with attendance/3 days, but it is much accelerated. With RTO there was lots of lead time notification so people could adjust their arrangements, much softer/more repetitive "discussions" documented before moving to formal process. The softer, lengthier approach was based on a philosophy that if expectations are made clear, people will adjust and comply. well, that didn't really happen. A lot of people didn't comply until told that it was going to reflect in their performance rating, bonus etc. Hence the more draconian approach on hours in office.

Badge or network login counts in the days in office report. The badge is needed to flag you if you’re going to a building other than your assigned.

The fabled hours in would use some kind of network activity probably first and last seen. The badge is still needed to make sure you go to the right office more than 50 percent of the time

That’s what I’m hoping. I’m hoping that the next six months is pretty much a grace period while they try to figure out how they can truly effectively micromanage us. With undisputed data to really stick it to us if we question anything.
In the meantime, keep coming up with ways to game the system.