Thread regarding Ford layoffs

H1Bs Monopoly

Most of the H1Bs are remote and having working multiple jobs, and pulled unqualified spouses into the company. When will this stop? Ford is renewing H1Bs while laying off Americans!!! WAKEUP!!!!!


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Post ID: @OP+1k3qmnj3v

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also complain about some of the managers in H1B using their power to hire fellow H1B and get a ʻcutʻ from the contracting company. I know it is hard to prove; but guess what it is all "buddy buddy" hiring with kickback going on. Time to vote again

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Post ID: @y3+1k3qmnj3v

use the link...complain NOW

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Post ID: @y2+1k3qmnj3v

There’s hope:

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Post ID: @r5+1k3qmnj3v

@d5

"What really undermines the salaried workforce is cheap agency, purchased service, and contract labor."

So you're saying it's not H-1B, it's all these groups full of H-1Bs?

Even if they make more, they still are highly preferential to their own people. That's why we see things like teams where an unusual amount of people are named Reddy.

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Post ID: @ja+1k3qmnj3v

As an European foreigner in the company with a L1-B visa (transferred from Ford Europe) i have been very engaged with how Fragomen the company Ford hires for their visa process work, and know a lot of L1 visas H1b visas holders.

I didn't noticed anything wrong with the L1 visa transferred employees, but most of the H1-B are not capacitated for the job position they hold.

Further more we have multiple Brazilians that come to work in the Office PDC and multiple plants for engineering with NO WORK VISAS they have B1/B2 tourism visas.

I am thinking heavily of doing an annon complain.

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Post ID: @hq+1k3qmnj3v

I just read this…

H-1B VISAS BEING INVESTIGATED BY TRUMP'S DOJ: WHAT TO KNOW (Newsweek)
The Department of Justice (DOJ) has reportedly launched investigations into alleged discrimination in the H-1B visa program, with Trump administration officials signaling that tighter scrutiny of the skilled worker visa could be on the horizon.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h-1b-visas-being-investigated-by-trump-s-doj-what-to-know/ar-AA1LtgpN

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Post ID: @gg+1k3qmnj3v

Government is so corrupt...so corporations become corrupt to play along. Not much choice or they will come after you. There is a reason they donate to politicians. Cronyism.

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Post ID: @e0+1k3qmnj3v

@d5 you right about direct h1b hire, and right about agency, but guess what, most of the agency workforce is h1b, and that is slave labor provider, cause what those people getting paid by the agency and what the agency getting paid by ford is completely different things

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Post ID: @ds+1k3qmnj3v

@d6

Why do you care? Yes politics is to blame, but also the companies to a greater extent taking advantage. In a nation of 300m, no excuse for not finding talent. I'm sorry that you don't understand how these H1B employees are a victim of leverage as well and in fact do work longer hours for less pay...because of sponsorship. But quite frankly, I dont give a #hit. Americans need jobs and they are in our way. Step aside, we'll deal with our senators thats nothing new. But dont come in here saying they make the same, because they typically don't. They are low balled but dont care because they get to bring families with them that are allowed to work as well. After all its 2-3x more then they'd make otherwise. Don't care about thier plight. Companies just deal with lower quality and think they win in the end.

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Post ID: @dc+1k3qmnj3v

No need to demonize the H1Bs, go talk to your congressmen and have them put a halt on new H1Bs, halt transfers, and let go of all H1Bs that are currently employed; problem solved. I am sick of the hate one gets direct at the H1Bs instead of the government and the corporations. The misleading hate spreads quick, and for someone without a background on who does the actual abuse, gets to spread hate on H1Bs. Work towards a change in laws without spreading the hate. If you do not see your congressmen act, then you must point to them and not the H1Bs. And don't be entitled just because you are a citizen or a green card holder. You get hired for your skills, flexibility, and values you bring to the company and not because you are a citizen. It is the universal truth, and it's the fact no matter whatever country one comes from.

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Post ID: @d6+1k3qmnj3v

H1B direct hires make the same money as the US citizens make. You've all just fallen for the easy victim hood story peddled by your favorite politician or talk show host.

What really undermines the salaried workforce is cheap agency, purchased service, and contract labor. But it's easier to blame H1B for everything.

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Post ID: @d5+1k3qmnj3v

@cd Management fads.

They all got their lobotomies at the same place.

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Post ID: @cv+1k3qmnj3v

@cd

As was said here before, these people running the show don't think long term. They think 2 quarters ahead max. Maybe to year end? Only as far as the bonus can see. If there was any hint of legitimate long term planning Ford wouldn't be where it is right now. Want to change the thinking? Change the incentive structure.

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Post ID: @cg+1k3qmnj3v

@cb

"Once one company starts, others just copy."

100%! What ever happened to direct competition? One company lays off, RTOs, or whatever - that should be an advantage to others that don't.

But nope, like lemmings off a cliff, each one rushes to adopt what the last one did.

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Post ID: @cd+1k3qmnj3v

H1Bs don't sit comfortably. GM is not extending H1s (direct employees not contracts/agency) anymore. Once one company starts, others just copy.

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Post ID: @cb+1k3qmnj3v

These companies only think 1 step ahead. Go ahead and outsource all of the jobs. Gen Z has already given you guys the middle finger. They aren't lazy, they just not buying your BS anymore. They are going to starve / wait you out. Join unions, learn a trade. Let these guys hire software engineers form the 3rd world that will work for 1/2 the money and write cr-ppy software resulting in recalls.

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Post ID: @c6+1k3qmnj3v

@br cheaper money duh. And quality of life (for now) is better in the US. Hold the ones running the final budget approvals accountable.

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Post ID: @c4+1k3qmnj3v

@bc
The current inflation for everything is related to supply and demand. If demand exceeds supply the prices increase. There are approx 80 million ill eagles are in the USA USA , which drives up demand for food, housing, and vehicles. We need to stop illegals and H1B visas now!

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Post ID: @c2+1k3qmnj3v

@ax

The cost of living wasn't the way it is due to greedy boomers, we wouldn't have this problem now would we? Americans demand more because the managerial class is bloated. Not because we simply "want MOAR". They employ H1B's to keep costs and quality down (no, they really don't care - if they did what he h&ll they been doing the past 5 years) and prices up. Didn't a WalMart exec just get nailed for getting kickbacks related to H1B's? Think about it. Pricing ourselves out....really? H1B's can come here and pile 6-7 family members into a house and they can all work from H4 and while the H1 works for half the pay, anything is better than the $hit hole the came from. Management get to threaten them with being sent back if they don't work 60 hours a week. Software gets rushed and here we are.

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Post ID: @bx+1k3qmnj3v

@ax

Does India allow foreigners to come in and undercut Indians? How about China? Pakistan?

Why is the U.S. obligated to hurt its own citizens like this?

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Post ID: @br+1k3qmnj3v

@ba “crony-capitalism” does this.

Business gets in bed with politicians (unfortunately sometimes literally) and the government, who has the gúns, picks the winners and losers.

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Post ID: @bq+1k3qmnj3v

@OP

Does this somehow work to Fords detriment? Then I'm 100% on board.

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Post ID: @bf+1k3qmnj3v

@bc both things can be true. The point is that people will sleepwalk into ideas like "we got outcompeted" without thinking about HOW we got outcompeted. Especially when the average American worker, many of whom just got here, have nothing to do with the high cost of living and financial fraud that encourages h1b abuse. We didn't get here by accident. Look back in history about who encouraged what, where money changed hands, who lived, and who was mu---red. Find out why we are in this position we are in and why it only seems to get worse and worse. We still have access to Wikipedia for now, so do some googling and figure it out

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Post ID: @bd+1k3qmnj3v

You were so close in pinpointing how the top makes a gross amount, but the housing crisis is purely fueled by those same elites hoarding homes to rent. Simply put, the elite hoards resources while us little people fight about petty differences.

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Post ID: @bc+1k3qmnj3v

@ax these companies make the money necessary to pay Americans it just goes to the top. In the 1980s an executive made 20 times more than the average worker. Now they make over 100x the average worker does. They want h1b so they can keep the money for themselves and because h1b's live 20 people to one apartment they sc--w up the housing market badly. Executives would do this to put the sc--ws on Americans even if the economy wasn't fu---d and 40,000 a year was a living wage, because it lets them steal our wages. The worse this gets the more damaged our economy will be and the worse the problem will get

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Post ID: @ba+1k3qmnj3v

Sorry to say, but Americans have priced themselves out of jobs. If someone is willing to do the same thing for less, why wouldn’t companies take advantage of that? The real reason US companies lobby for the H1B program isn’t because there is no more local talent, there I just no more local talent at the price they want to pay.

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Post ID: @ax+1k3qmnj3v

It would help if H1Bs were required to be paid substantially MORE than the prevailing wage for a given job. As it is, companies usually end up paying less, which is why the H1B system works as it does today.

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Post ID: @aw+1k3qmnj3v

The truth eventually comes out someone call 60 Minutes

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