No one can ever make me believe that every conference call requires 30 to 60 people to be in attendance. Only 5 people speak while others literally have nothing to do with this call that you told us is mandatory that we be on. Let people do their jobs and only invite those that are truly required to be on. We know you’re working. You don’t need to slam calls on our calendars to prove it to us.
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Drives me nuts !! you can never send out a meeting invite on a topic without including 1000 people, then they forwarded onto 1000 more people.
@eq+1jmck1b9s explains this bank to all. Leaders lead with metrics and understanding -- bullies lead with opinions and fear. You admit to a mistake and your job gets sent to India. Lovely...
Its used for empire building. “Look at me, I’m a manager and see all the people I have on this call. Yeah, I’m that important…cuz I’m a manager.”
It looks like Wells Fargo can save hundreds of millions of dollars by firing these useless overpaid executives, Sr. managers and middle managers who play politics but contribute nothing to the company. It will improve the efficiency and the shareholders will be happy.
Sh-t, I'd rather sit on a nonsense call than be stuck having to do my work. Keep em coming!
Middle manager here. We were "leaders" at one time but as one post said we are now managers. For 12 years I attended occasional project meetings my team were managing to gauge how they handled the meeting, the participants and their knowledge of the content. Getting a pulse from the room so to speak. The expectation of my boss now is that I be in ALL of their meetings. My team has 15+ years experience at what they do and I need to babysit them? I also had openings on my calendar each day that I tried to keep consistent so my team could come to me. Team meetings were once every month for an hour with a set agenda focused on what is coming not what has past. 1X1 meeting were 30 minutes every 2 weeks with the agenda set by my team member. It was no optional however. Now I have to do 1x1 meeting every week and team meetings every week. I've never had more than 5% of my team in the office for 19 years. I know how to remote manage. Management no longer sets goals for everyone to meet. They now establish opinions based on limited information. I had a team member moved to a 2 by my boss because one of the people surveyed said she sc--wed up testing on one project. ALL of the testers for that system were displaced and support moved to India. Those changes continue to be a mess and caused one of the largest outages we had last year. My person had nothing to do with any of that. Its an amazing case study for the future on how not to lead. And yes, I'm a boomer and no I care less about what happened in the 1990's, but I do and always will try to lead with respect and integrity. These things are lacking at WF big time.
More #wellsfargoshitshow in action
Like the previous poster mentioned there are a ton of meetings out there with no agenda. If there is no agenda for a call on my calendar I should expect it to last no longer than 10 mins, but folks think they need to fill up the time. It’s a huge inefficiency, especially with this all inclusive meeting culture (although for certain things you do need a wide audience, but there should be detailed agendas for those).
@bb+1jmck1b9s, is his name Greg?
My manager blocks his calendar all day all week all month except when he is on vacation. He said he has meetings all day all week. I cannot see what kind of meetings he has on his calendar except for our biweekly team meetings. When I send him a text message, it always takes at least 4 hours for him to respond. To be honest, I have absolutely no idea what my manager does each day each week.
I know a manager who told me if she didn't have any meetings she didn't have any work to do.
This is the culture --- meetings with no agenda about topics that nobody is a subject matter expert about (especially the managers), so it becomes a forwarding frenzy so that everyone on the call has 1-2 back-ups to 'keep them honest' (as they say) when they are blabbing about something they know nothing about.
The flip side of this. I just invite who i need on the call and they forward to 5 of their closest friends. I make it so the cant forward and they copy and send the meeting link to their posse.
We have too many "unnecessary" middleman managers at Wells. They need to go.
Besides town halls, I've never heard of this. Sounds ridiculous.
Phony meetings to present work they don’t understand.
It’s “management”. Not “leaders”.
For so many 'managers' (who collectively refer to themselves as 'leaders'), Teams meetings are their work. Without these constant meetings, they would sit idle. They need to the meeting to be able to show output/activity. Outside of these Teams meetings, the ONLY other aspect of their work is to muddy up email chains with confusion because they haven't read/understood the details and have no objective other than to get the ball out of their proverbial court with respect to someone waiting on them to reply. And when it's clear that they just added confusion, they hide behind the notion that they are so busy from all the meetings that they can't keep up on their email.
It's too the point that so many managers can't be counted on for much of anything whatsoever. The teams almost babysit the managers since they are 'so busy'.
And they demand to see you live so they can watch you roll your eyes at every cringe joke from a boomer who thinks we still work in the 1990's.