I hope a manager can answer this question. How does this work?
Who decided how many headcount need to be fire?
It it decided by corporate HR , manager level, VP, or some other department?
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@f8: The year is the problem.
I think there is no choice. As far as I can see, it appears that management hold all the angels of course. No angels for me.
"who decided who need to go"
This responsibility was turned over to he AI agent module in HCM
@h2 it is absolutely true. The key being “most managers” only higher level M’s will know who is on the list. Input is given during yearly cycles like TRBs and end of year evaluations where, whether or not you know it, you are helping to put yourself on a list somewhere at some point. How stupid do you have to be to think M’s at every level would know about the list or have input? It’s absolutely untrue.
@f9 not at all true
Someone posted: "Most managers have no input; names come down from above, not based on performance."
This is absolutely not true. Your manager will determine who is selected from your team, but they do not have any say on the overall number of positions available.
Your manager is clueless - happens at VP level in most cases. M2s are in the dark.
Being competent, delivering results does not matter. Many who were competent and delivering got shown the door while useless people who do nothing survived and failed up. Majority of Directors/VPs don't know the ABCs of engineering of managing people - they are just good su-k ups, liars and back stabbers. Bad behavior and failure gets you promoted - IDK. Note I did not say everyone, there are brilliant, kind, great leaders who are worth every dollar they get paid, but they are the few angels around.
@bf Oddly, this year's RIFs we after this year's RSU's vested. I got this years, but left a tidy sum of unvested ones on the table.
@ba no, its https://wheelofmisfortune.com/ :) :)
Who knows, when it comes to the criteria. Previously it was mentioned that performance ratings play no part in who was selected.
Maybe it's based on how many unvested RSUs a person might have.
@ba lm@o
I acquired access to the layoff tool - https://wheelofnames.com/
I was an M3 manager for 10 years and went through MANY layoffs (until it was finally my turn). Never once was I asked for input when deciding who to let go - it was decided layers above me. I had to do the dirty work of telling my staff, though. Life is better on the outside!
Most managers have no input ... names come down from above, not based upon performance.
Every Project manger have to give some names from the team. Beacuse higher management never impacted they just throw us under the bus to save themselves.