Thread regarding U.S. Bank layoffs

Why the RTO conversation will never go away

For everyone complaining that the backlash to RTO gets tiring, here's why it won't go away.

Outsourcing means they don't believe you can't do the job remotely.

Work has changed. You can do everything with an internet connection.

Housing prices and cost of living are insane, but America has a lot of undeveloped land where we could build affordable housing for decent costs if you didn't have to commute to one building just to be on your computer.

Teams are not co-located, so collaboration is a made up reason to be in the office.

Commuting and office buildings are huge carbon emissions contributors, so I dont want to hear from any of these companies what they think of the environment.

The world has changed. We should embrace it. Companies could get teams together for one offs. They can even have optional offices or offices for execs who love it so much, but the excuse that this is what we've always done just doesn't make sense anymore.


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@ae Please post links to these supposed "studies", you ignorant troll.

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Post ID: @kb+1k3m7tnrb

@j2 my favorite part is when they're routinely called out for not listening to employees they basically say "we hear your words but we don't care so stfu".

There was a question asked about the hiring strategy and he had the audacity to say that it's near and dear to his heart, and how important the in-office culture is while simultaneously laying off people on said hubs and offshoring positions. None of it aligns. But they can't grasp why people are pi---d and they have really low approval ratings.

Pick a fu--ing side man.

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Post ID: @je+1k3m7tnrb

RTO conversation should NEVER go away. It is a blatant abuse of power by MC. No meaningful or logical reasoning behind this stupidity other than some cringy excuse of a reason like "make friends" or "we feel like it would improve productivity". Zero stats showing any of that is true. Bank's MC should be ashamed of themselves and their conduct. Survey clearly showed what 80K employees thought of them and yet they try to turn those in to action items for us. They're just pure evil and need to be kicked out to save this bank. Give em a taste of their own medicine and continue bringing up RTO at every opportunity.

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Post ID: @j2+1k3m7tnrb

I also need less pay in a low cost area.

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Post ID: @hf+1k3m7tnrb

@ae show us one that includes a peer-reviewed quality finding. I’m truly interested.

“Studies have shown and proven people that work from home tend to have a loligag attitude”

Most of the smart people here cringe with “studies have shown” like it’s some statement of credibility. Show us the money.

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Post ID: @e0+1k3m7tnrb

@ae

Regardless of any "loligag attitude" or not, studies have shown increased productivity and worker satisfaction, especially in highly motivated and productive workers; the ones who really matter in a company.

That's the bottom line that matters. Everything else is fluff.

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Post ID: @dt+1k3m7tnrb

@ae BS.

Bootlicker

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Post ID: @dh+1k3m7tnrb

@aw

Yep. As soon as one lie fails, they pull another one out of their bags, just as unbelievable as the last.

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Post ID: @db+1k3m7tnrb

@ae

"If you fight RTO, someone can take your role from Pune or Hyderabad"

So as long as i come in, my job is 100% safe from offshoring?

You going to sign off on that, or just more bootlicking hogshit?

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Post ID: @da+1k3m7tnrb

@ae 100% DISAGREE!!!.

As i am still a remote worker, I don't come in late or leave early. My shift consumes of working 7-4 with an hour break. They have no intention of creating us a hub here in Missouri in our location which is crazy to me considering we where the biggest Mortgage location that existed for the company. 370 employees down to more like 60 existing. I'm paid to keep my mouth shut and do my job......

l just work away until I am not.

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Post ID: @cc+1k3m7tnrb

I like how their reasons kept changing over time. I’ve heard various justifications like collaboration, we feel we work better in person, and data security concerns. They have so much concern for data that they have no problem outsourcing roles. Everyone isn’t d-mb and knows the real reasons are they want full control to micromanage and want the real estate market to stay afloat. There is more disengagement and disapproval of the managing committee because everyone knows they’re full of it.

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Post ID: @aw+1k3m7tnrb

***studies ??? Sponsored by who? The employers? Oh please I have a degree in statistics you can manipulate numbers to show any thesis and prove any point if someone pays money to prove THAT point.

Did companies go bankrupt bc of remote work during covid? NO profit soared.

Don’t tell me about some BS studies made by BS companies who are paid to show data in a certain way.

THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE GASLIT.

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Post ID: @av+1k3m7tnrb

@ae at this point you can find a study to prove whatever bias you have when it comes to remote work.

The fact is that they gave people permission to relocate to lower cost of living areas and celebrated our ability to have a better work/life balance. They then gaslit the ENTIRE company saying that "it was never meant to be permanent".

It was. We were shifted from hybrid to remote because that's what we wanted and championed for. People made MAJOR life decisions around the fact that their jobs were remote. There was no "this is just for COVID". It was "you're remote workers now, congrats. Go live" and then the bank does what it always does and follows all the other big banks it'll never be because RTO was what everyone else was doing.

Having teams in India makes remote work make even more sense because the time differences are terrible to manage around. They're just too fu--ing cheap, with sh---y systems, and now there's a culture that's toxic as he-l on top of it. As soon as the market shifts a lot of our talent is going to walk right out the door and then GK will have to reckon with what she's done.

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Post ID: @as+1k3m7tnrb

U.S. Bank and their consultants created a significant remote work culture, celebrated it, encouraged it, touted it as the new way of working, workers and their families bit on it, built their lives around it, as inflation settled in, costs of products, goods and services unused during the pandemic skyrocketed, the bank continued to sell the "new normal" only in office for "moments that mattered", had several initiatives to bring people back in 2021, again in 2022, but return to office was kicked down the road time after time and then the bank's consultants engineered the 180 degree shift with no plausible reasons other than the flimsy reasons and consultant shtick that workers saw right through, initiating the current and rapidly expanding separation between bank leadership and bank workers that make it happen for the shareholders, despite the best efforts of leadership to create hardships, obstacles and disincentives to the remaining opportunities for success at U.S. Bank

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Post ID: @am+1k3m7tnrb

Studies have shown and proven people that work from home tend to have a loligag attitude and sleep in later and cut out earlier. Productivity is lost running errands and making appointments during working hours. No collaboration being done when not present. Relationships are not developing to synergise effort when not in the office. If you fight RTO, someone can take your role from Pune or Hyderabad at least costing and they will be in a growing office. Simplý as this

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