Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Lack of accountability for incompetent directors

Many moon ago there was a rule that a director had to have at least four direct reports. Now, it seems most have few or no direct reports. It also seems like everyone is a director. The unemployment rate got so low hon was forced to promote folks to director positions or they would leave.

The problem is that many of these "directors" know nothing of how to truly lead. I can't remember the last time I was in a meeting with the director's manager being in attendance. There seems to be no accountability for incompetent leadership.

How did it get so top heavy.

Aero


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Post ID: @OP+1k56yh4bf

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Thats what you end up with when the company has a policy of getting rid of its most experienced staff.

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Post ID: @rd2+1k56yh4bf

Not arguing here but wanted to share my scenario. Had 6 people performing various functions. After multiple reorgs, I'm singularly responsible for doing the work of Finance, Offering Management, Market Research, Competitive Intelligence, PMO, M&A, and Transformation Office for 3 product lines. It is an extremely large workload performed by one person which used to have multiple direct reports.

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Post ID: @16m+1k56yh4bf

Best job I ever had was a Sr. Director in Aero. I had zero reports and only needed to lick a few boots.

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Post ID: @m5+1k56yh4bf

I hear there are openings in Clearwater for higher paid directors and VP's. Great pay, no real need to show up and just fake it until retirement.

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Post ID: @kd+1k56yh4bf

@gc

Yeah, Aero needs to get new products in gear before it is too late. We won't grow by making 50 year old engines and 30 year old flight decks. The foolish RDE spend decisions from are just heartbreaking to watch.

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Post ID: @jq+1k56yh4bf

It's the Boomers fault. They take take take and never give. The most selfish generation ever. I thought they were all mostly dead anyway.

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Post ID: @jm+1k56yh4bf

Soon enough the boomers will be gone and Honeywell will shrink to just the corporate buy, strip, sell business that it really is at heart. Without a billions in capital new technology is out of reach and packaging current tech for customers is now a commodity given AI and contract manufacturing. Literally the only thing keeping aerospace in business is the paperwork and the repugnance of building we-pons that keeps young startups from enter the market. ( the exception being evil overlord buddies who name their companies after lord of the rings references. Cough (palantir /anduril)

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Post ID: @gc+1k56yh4bf

No work is better than Honeywell work

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Post ID: @e3+1k56yh4bf

How I wish I still had a job at HW to complain about. The job market su-ks out there. Even headhunters can't find anything. I never complained about promotion or even money to my managers. I did the work, dealt with some toxic coworkers, and then hit the wrong age and poof, punted to the curb. What a life.

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Post ID: @db+1k56yh4bf

You must talk about Aero Supplier Readiness org

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Post ID: @bk+1k56yh4bf

@av - is this something that just got decided? Source?

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Post ID: @b4+1k56yh4bf

Well no more senior directors in corporate.

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Post ID: @av+1k56yh4bf

@OP Don’t stop there. How many undeserving worthless principal engineers and senior program managers can you name?

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Post ID: @as+1k56yh4bf

Because the pay and benefits are horrible just like the working conditions. Pretty soon everyone will be a VP. When I started at Allied Signal, it was extremely difficult to become a director and even harder to advance much beyond that.

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