High performing employees who no longer want to be here are leaving and who can argue with them. This is sending a message to others - morale is all time low and leadership is doing nothing to address it. They are spending their days going to customer events to prop up customer confidence and keep their own jobs. Strong leadership leads with humility and owes up to mistakes, weak leadership hides and pretends everything is ok when it is not.
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@OP This statement EXACTLY represents many of the "leaders" I delt with day-to-day.
"Strong leadership leads with humility and owes up to mistakes, weak leadership hides and pretends everything is ok when it is not."
Oracle and how they treated people is not ok - full stop. It's more like politcal entitlements, false authenticty, wrapped in a good ole boy/girl protective network. The system breeds and rewards over paid mediocrity (or worse). If you're a high performer, and know your S&iT but are 'still' there: Some advice: look in the mirror, ask the hard questions of yourself, is it really worth it.... Net: if you're not in an influencial politcal circle - time is not your friend. Know your value and move on.
Yawn. I guess it sux2bu@oracle.com
@hb you are talking about the Oracle Doormat Principle, a phenomenon first observed here and made public 5 years ago.
I have to produce a report with people's name that did not complete their 40 hour work week.
So if an exempt does three weeks in a row of 60+ hours, then one week of 35 do you punish them?
Let’s be honest here. High performers don’t stay in a company like Oracle. Those who do are just there for stability and do their time until they retire. That is why good people will always leave at the first opportunity they get. Those who stay are not wanted anywhere so they have nowhere to go. That’s the truth!
@ap Many who were a part of the recent 30,000 were also superior performers. What you are doing as a product of the role you occupy is far more important to Oracle right now than how you’re doing it. It’s okay to feel comfort in your high marks. Just understand that performance isn’t what got many dismissed and it isn’t what has kept others there. Be hopeful you are lucky enough to keep your job until your RSUs vest. Many others hoped the same and could not. It’s not strategy. It’s luck of the draw.
@dp I have to submit a weekly timesheet which. I know it's nonsense and so does my direct manager.
As long as the work gets done ... then neither of us really cares.
@OP Some companies want you to quit on your own. There is a BIG company that tracks your badge regardless if you are exempt or non-exempt. I have to produce a report with people's name that did not complete their 40 hour work week. They get canned as simple as that.
I'd go ASAP if voluntary severance was available. Otherwise I'll keep warming the bench and quiet quitting whilst Larry continues to cover my health care.
If you aren't looking for your next job by now it will be your own fault when you get laid off. How many warnings do you need to get? There is no clear end to the layoffs and the number of full time employees could easily drop below 100K before the bottom is hit. Ride out Oracle as long as you can. Being employed while looking for your next job is actually a positive in the eyes of people hiring. If you are looking after being laid off they have no idea whether you were unlucky or a bad performer.
@ay how come no one is finding it to be as simple as you make it sound?
@a6 yours is a bad strategy. Get you next job first and if severance happens to coincide great. Having a job is way more important that a one time pay out. Even high performers are finding it tough to get hired. The people who post about finding their next job within weeks are either lying, lucky, or are the unicorns in the herd. The vast majority of people are NOT finding work and the severance is running out.
They have to love that when people leave on their own. Saves the company money in severance. But man, if you can FIND another job, good for you! Some of us have been out since August/September of last year and are still looking.
I just quit last month, found my promotion elsewhere, can't wait. It was so unbearable I couldn't even make myself to get up in the morning. Good luck to yall.
You can stay planted in stoney ground, or move to rich black soil.
The choice is yours!
I've been ranked outstanding or exceeds for the past 6 years - i'm heading out as soon as my rsu's vest this year
This is across the board. The industry is eating itself from the inside out.
I know people who retired and got 2 months of garden leave (not sure if they got severance too as they didn't tell.me.)
I completely understand the sentiment, but it's not the smartest strategy. It's better to get on the RIF list to get some severance.