This layoff has a special experience. What a shameless Sr Director, Director and Sr Manager taking any position. These people are taking low level positions. Shame shame. What is your comment??
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@kj my director in Texas Mack took demotion. Regional south. I got laid off. Why is it okay for those low performer director to stay in job and I get laid off. She is cru*l and mean. This is insane. She is a s lic. Watch out who ever is reporting to her now. She is the worst person I ever have as my senior leader. Good luck folks.
My manager got demoted, she still runs the show until whatever new position replaces hers, she was supposed to give them an answer by Friday, I don’t see her going anywhere and taking the demotion, not just because she may need her job, Idk her situation, but many of us don’t want her to leave and I think this would be part of the reason she may end up staying, it destroyed us all when we found out her position was eliminated. If you are a good leader, people will want you to stay even if is on a lower position, because you will still our leader regardless of your new title, and why no staying, but if you are a bad leader, good luck to you and don’t take the demotion that hold up an spot that someone else that is better than you could take
The senior management have been well compensated. They should not take jobs away from ICs. Grow some ba--s.
@ap Excellent point and the reason many will settle for less UNTIL they find something better. It’s not a death sentence, you can leave eventually.
There is no shame. If you are a true leader who stands by your team and delivers, you will get nothing but genuine support from your colleagues.
@an They should feel more shame for their poor decision making abilities that put the company in this position, and that goes all the way to the top.
Whether to accept a demotion is a personal choice. Many people are swallowing their pride and accepting demotions with pay cuts. Many need the income to feed their families in a tough job market.
@OP you have no right to judge those individuals. You do not know their circumstances. Shame on YOU for making such insensitive statements. What do you want them to do? Not accept the demotions and not be able to provide food and healthcare for their families???
@ap Sorry but if there are indeed ICs being displaced by directors then I have more empathy for the ICs. Executives (including directors) are very well paid at T-Mobile especially with bonuses and stock.
Living within or below your means is a he-l of a lot easier. If they can’t budget their own finances then how the he-l can they budget for a company?
It’s sad to see responses to this. What if people who accepted demotion have family member who needs medical treatment and medical insurance is a must for long time. Or any other reasons like multiple kids in college, etc etc. Please let them live their lives.
My opinion - once you are director and above, you should feel shame and guilty moving down. Shameless.
@a8 Yes agreed. They also often lose technical knowledge as they rise the ranks so it’s a lose, lose if replacing a good IC.
using demotions to protect higher-level roles—has resulted in a top-heavy SDM function & downstream strain on other teams. feels like a death by a thousand cuts
@a7 they are taking a demotion and letting go of someone else in the same position under the name of duplication. TOTAL SHAME!
? It’s a job, why not take the offer if the person chooses. Live and let live.
Several should have never been promoted to management positions to begin with.
Shame