Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

its complicated, mate

While not covering all possible ethics problems, in the US they used to have an ethics policy you had to sign every year. It was continually violated including by those who were responsible for enforcing it so the violations were not just uncorrectable but encouraged by management.

Cisco needs to look into their past lawsuits for so called wrongful dismissal. They "may" have paid out hundreds of thousands for perjury

What's an "ethical" company? What's an "ethical" employee? You trade your time for money...that's all it is. If you want loyalty get a dog.

"We don't want you to talk about [ISSUE] on company time, we're here to provide products" is a very reasonable thing for a company to say and enforce.
The only problem with Cisco is they have been extremely vocal about all kinds of social issues right up until now, when suddenly it becomes all about business.

Exactly zero for-profit companies are 'ethical', and most non-profit companies are also not 'ethical'. Get a grip.

Fu-k Palestine, fu-k cisco

@g3

pledge to withhold your labor, sign the open letter, donate your resignation or dump Cisco stock all in solidarity with Palestine.

I sell my stock right away, so yeah, you could call me an ally.

You hate capitalism and yet you work in order to eat? Curious. I am very intelligent.

@ew the email is here: https://medium.com/@bridge2humanity/my-labor-will-not-contribute-to-genocide-and-apartheid-of-palestinians-cisco-resignation-letter-d9d79b5fea5c

@ah What was in the email?

@OP So, ethical or not ethical.......I agree with your comments. But, are there layoffs coming?

Cisco is not a good company

@OP why r u blaming SLT? Not that they don't have a hand in this BS, but ELT and the board are the real problem around here. Sh-t rolls downhill.

Real business leaders run a business. If employer performance is not in the top 40% then you are exposed plain and simple.
The stock price has been paying off nicely for the top talent.

I just saw the email. It got recalled in Outlook few minutes later and the author is no longer working for Cisco. It was very sad what was in there, especially in the attachments :(

a company is a soulless entity, devoid of ethics.
Cisco, Microsoft, even companies you think of as "ethical" simply can't be.

whose ethics? which moral framework? a

Cisco employees support many worthy causes. Is that ethical?
Cisco supplies mass surveillance tools to dictatorships. Is that ethical?
Cisco pays for "the best place to work" placement. Is that ethical?

its complicated, mate