Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

You don't need to have a PSG 22, 23 or even a PSG 21 w Pension to do this.. the admin in my dental office can follow up like she pester me for my next dental appointment...

CMDB needs to be kept up to date

@fk+1jnrka9ek
I got news for you, the IT folks in Manila are process oriented and very text book. The ones I have worked with for the past 5 years take a small task and turn it into a college research paper lasting the entire semester. You are going to be miserable if you keep your job position through the the reduction.

Did anyone ask LC about CMDB? Is he so mad about IT that he’s going to trash CMDB? The IT person pestering people about it has been told by leadership that CMDB needs to be kept up to date. Don’t blame the poor shmuck who’s asking you to do the checklist or confirm CMDB data, they’re just doing what they’ve been told to do. Run it up to IT leadership and ask them why are you asking us to do this cr-p. And oh BTW, have you seen LC’s new IT Org chart? Looks like he’s taking IT back to 2012. Very siloed.

@e7 I pray LC dismantles all the groups like that. So tired of being hamstrung by all the paperwork creators that sit behind textbooks and claim knowledge of things.

What have the 5000 people in digital core accomplished aside from missing plan deadlines

@bd+1jnrka9ek Cyber is literally the org name....

So, a few months back, I was at these small group meet-ups with LC in SR. He was pretty ticked off about how IT was doing—like, we weren’t getting enough done for how many people we had. And OP’s totally on the money.

You’ve got the real workers out there grinding, but then they’re getting hassled nonstop by these desk jockeys who live in CMDB or Excel & PowerPoint. Plus, usually the team got some BA—or, oops, 'App Engineer'—tagging along, pretending to help but really just mooching off their work. No wonder everything’s moving at a snail’s pace!

I work in IT and agree that IT su-ks. Want to build something? Prepare to spend six months in backlog prioritisation, PI planning, architecture reviews, assigning app IDs, CMDB entries, open source approvals, DAST and SAST scanning, and being beta testers for ITFPs latest abortion of an Ansible role. Make sure you to check in with the global advisor too, who has no experience in IT, but did a 12 month MIT course, to make sure it’s a world class solution.

Then, prepare to build the thing using inappropriate architectural standards and “reusable components” to ensure we are “amplifying value”, but most of the time they just complicate things by trying to reuse square pegs in every shaped hole.

Meanwhile, the scrum masters, digital managers, product owners, product line managers and release train engineers can pat themselves on the back for a job well done, two years after the request was put in and once the original customer has long since rotated into a different role, leaving it to decay in a void and never see the light of day.

Whether you’re in IT or non-IT, we are all impacted. 15-20% across the Enterprise. No one is safe. One org is not the reason for the layoffs. Misdirected blame won’t change that.

IT is SO USELESS!!! Their skill sets are so out of line with what we need. It’s clear to me that middle managers pulled the wool over MW’s head regarding the importance of Agile, SLB, Azure, etc. IT SU-KS!!!!!??

I’m not in IT and have a field facing role in wells. I hope to god they keep people in the BU (or whatever that becomes) who can actually help you in-person or at least respond to an email. The processes that are already offshored is a nightmare and sometimes takes days when I need things immediately to do my job. I outright feel anger when it gets to the point I have to engage with them…because it takes 5 levels of “let me kindly ask my supervisor” to get a response on anything.

If you're still calling it "cyber", you need to be fired.

LOL.... this person has never worked in Downstream where they hate checklist people and coordinators... MN's goal is to make all of Chevron like the accelerated Downstream.. his homebase for many years

therefore a lower skill set, of people who will rely on "checklists" to perform their jobs because they will not understand the work they perform.

@ar+1jnrka9ek

Let’s be real here. All your drilling and completions engineers can go too. And D&C Ops. We don’t drill our own wells. That’s Patterson. And how many earth scientists are actually working on stuff that will be drilled? How about all of the performance engineering just doing benchmarking analyses.

Totally agree.. but IT is only cutting 40% and not 90%... so who do you cut? I would bet they will cut the people that make other people less productive
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Most of IT can be let go and/or be outsourced to a low cost center, remember, this is a company that manufactures oil and gas and that should be the main focus.

I agree with this strongly... What are their credentials and make them special? Do they have Cyber industry certification to protect us? Honestly - most of them used to be "checklist BAs" or weak App support people (technically weaker than our MSP) getting assigned to Cyber because nobody wants them... IF they apply outside, most are not even qualified to be a Cyber Engineer or Analyst

As a comparison, I know some (not many) amazing Data Engineers that can literally do amazing for the business to get business insights using the lake, Synapse etc... a few already got jobs outside of Chevron who want to say in San Ramon/Bay Area

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The majority of our Cyber folks know know nothing about Cyber. They look at expensive tools and tote the number of spam email messages their tools block. They do Cyber by telling us we cannot innovate due to Cyber risk.

@af you ever been in the field in 100 degree weather wearing full FR? Doubt it.

@ae+1jnrka9ek jeezzzzzz... you must be one of those who think you are too intelligent and smart to put some so-called "innovation and cool" stuff out in the field not knowing of any cyber consequences! Get that over your head, cyber isnt going away in the new org!

@aa The majority of our Cyber folks know know nothing about Cyber. They look at expensive tools and tote the number of spam email messages their tools block. They do Cyber by telling us we cannot innovate due to Cyber risk. We have people telling us about Cyber in the field that wouldn’t know a refinery if they were standing in front of an alky unit.

Most of IT can be let go and/or be outsourced to a low cost center, remember, this is a company that manufactures oil and gas and that should be the main focus.

Things are definitely not great. Most people are just working without delivering any meaningful results — CMDBs and all that sh-t. This cut won’t solve anything either, but I do like the accountability theme, if taken well l, which I know won't —I see people in IT who were supposed to make the new model work after the 2020 reorg, and they obviously failed — yet they still have those pretty spots. No fu--ing accountability. So yeah, I have no hope.

Ha! If you think IT just does spreadsheets wait until your paycheck gets messed up or your benefits aren’t right. The $MM is because large scale IT systems are expensive. There’s a lot of $ that goes into fighting cyber attacks to keep the company “safe”. Just ask the smaller companies that can’t afford systems how often they’re hacked.

@a5+1jnrka9ek yeppppp, that's the definition of corporate greed.

And per copilot.
"Corporate greed is the idea that corporations and their executives prioritize their own gain over the well-being of workers and the public. It can include practices like raising prices, cutting costs, and writing rules in their favor."

OP - and about half of IT folks do actually work! No need to trash a function, we are all impacted! This is an enterprise impact. You need to give that feedback to the future "accountable" leaders!

@a2+1jnrka9ek you captured it well! Productivity will decrease with all those IT workflows and checklists done offshore!!! i dont expect they are all that technical either. In fact, a lot of them will probably shadow US IT folks before end of 2026! This layoff isn't about people's productivity, it is improving cost, saving labor cost! Guess we are too $$$ pricey!

OP I don't think you understand but the ELT is actually moving to more standardized IT processes that will use the "checklists" you state you don't like. I agree with you the IT processes are cumbersome but the decision has been made to move toward a lower cost, therefore a lower skill set, of people who will rely on "checklists" to perform their jobs because they will not understand the work they perform. So the production side of Chevron will be filling out more forms that will be used by people who do not understand the work and they will be working in countries that may not be located in the Chevron facility time zone.
This is the decision the ELT made for you.

We can increase productivity by getting rid of all that cr-p you just mentioned..